Type: BB PistolPellet Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Crosman. Model: SNR357. Materials: Mostly metal, some plastic parts. Weight: 1.92 pound (871 grams). Total Length: 8.13 inches (20.65cm). Barrel: 3 inches (7.6cm) metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2. Action: Revolver single and double action. AmmunitionType: 4.5mm BB’s / .177 cal. pellets. AmmunitionCapacity: 6 round cylinder. FPS: Claimed 400.
Trigger Pull: The Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver has both a single and double action trigger, meaning you can pre-cock the hammer and shoot in single action which has a light short trigger pull. Or you can simply shoot in double action by pulling the trigger when the hammer is down and the trigger will cock the hammer and also release it to fire the Revolver. In double action the trigger is noticeably longer and heavier than in single action as your trigger finger now has to do all the work for the action. Having both single and double action is nice as you can shoot in action rapid fire using the double action or slow down and shoot with more accuracy in single action.
Accuracy: I have not tested out this exact Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver but I have reviewed several similar products from Dan Wesson which essentially are the exact same mechanical gun manufactured by Wingun for both ASG and Crosman. I will be making a new Field Test Video for the Crosman SNR357 in a week or two but you can take a look at my recent Field Test Video for the Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold version which is mechanically the same gun as the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver.
Build Quality: When it comes to the build of the Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver, it is alsmot all metal other than mainly the grips and the CO2 tab as far as I can tell. It weighs in at nearly 2 pounds even for a more compact revolver so it feels very hefty in the hand. In similar Dan Wesson models there has been some concerns with the hammer feeling a bit sloppy but this has never caused any concern in terms of functionality. I also am not a fan of the way the grips slide back for access to the CO2 as they can come off and misalign when trying to put them back in place. Other than that this pistol is a solid well made revolver.
Realism: The Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is styled after a 357 type snub nosed revolver and looks for the most part true to scale and form. As this product design was one of the first shell loading revolvers back in the day, manufacturers had to use parts that where already available as in the CO2 valves which where at the time a bit longer than they can make now. Because of this, the area between the cylinder and the back the revolver is a bit long to accommodate the longer valves made at that time. This does distorts the gun a little bit but to be honest most people will not notice.
Pros:
Design has been around for a while now and so it is well tested.
A decent looking replica of a 357 type revolver.
Single and double action trigger allows for both action and more laid back and precise shooting ability.
400 claimed fps is more than adequate for plinking and action shooting.
Always fun loading up the 6 removable shells and placing them in the cylinder.
Fully adjustable sights for dead center shooting.
CO2 is fully well hidden inside the grips.
Can choose between shooting pellets or BB’s.
Cons:
Barrel is not recessed.
Area between cylinder and hammer is a bit long as it has to accommodate the CO2 valve.
Grip removal can be a bit finicky.
Comments: The Crosman SNR357 CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is far from a new styled gun on the market, it’s been around for about a decade originally introduced main stream by ASG as their Dan Wesson 357. Being an older styled airgun means any issues it may have had are now for sure worked out so you know you are getting a solid and reliable Air Pistol here. If you are looking for an updated 357 then take a look at the Dan Wesson 715 series as some of the issues I have mentioned with the SNR357 are worked out on the newer style 357 Revolvers.
I have already reviewed several Crosman 357 Pellet/BB Revolvers in the past like the Crosman Vigilante which also has the ability to shoot both .177 caliber pellets and 4.5mm Steel BB’s, (Really they all are with the right magazine). With the Vigilante my pellet chronograph tests got similar results but with Steel BB’s the Crosman Vigilante did a lot better than my Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver using a similar 6 inch barrel. As expected both the Crosman Vigilante and the Crosman Triple Threat did about the same in terms of accuracy getting better results with pellets over Steel BB’s.
Starting with the velocity portion of my Indoor Field Test Shooting video, I placed a brand new 12 gram CO2 into the Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver and tested out some 7 grain .177 caliber Lead Pellets. I averaged 382 fps in what I would consider normal indoor temperature ranges so you can expect a bit higher velocities in warmer conditions. Moving on to 4.5mm 5.1 grain Steel BB’s, I averaged quite a bit lower velocity at 288 fps. I was surprise since it was almost 100 fps lower than the heavier 7 grain lead pellets. The logical reason for this is that lead Pellets fit the barrel much more snug, stoping any CO2 from getting around them which helps increase the velocity over Steel BB’s which are a hard metal and need to be slightly smaller in diameter and therefore do let some CO2 get by reducing the pressure behind them.
For the accuracy porting of the the Indoor Field Test I shot 10 rounds for my pellet magazine first and then 6 rounds for the BB magazine, simply because this is how many rounds each magazine holds… Makes sense right? Even with the pellet magazine holding 10 rounds over the BB magazine’s 6 rounds, the Pellet magazine was still able to get a much tighter grouping at around 1 inch over the BB target which was closer to 3 inches. BB’s seemed to really like to hook a bit with the Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver, so I would for sure go with pellets if accuracy is importatn to you. Both pellets and BB’s shot a little bit high and to the left from the bulls-eye but that can easily be adjusted with the fully adjustable rear sight.
The Crosman Triple Threat performed rather as expected and was not a big surprise other than the BB’s really having a much lower velocity this time around. It is clear to me that I would not waste my time shooting Steel BB’s unless this is all I had on hand as they where not only much slower but also a lot less accurate. Over time the steel BB’s could damage the rifled steel barrel effecting future pellet accuracy. The Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver offers a lot of options with ammo choice and barrel choice that alter it’s looks and even performance to some degree but if you want a Crosman 357 type CO2 Revolver than it for sure gives you the most flexibility.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver like pretty much all of the 357 type Crosman Revolvers is rather nice in single action with virtually zero take-up and it has a not too light weight with a predictable feel to it. In double action it does get much longer and heavier but still very usable. If you have larger thicker finger then you may want to start off in single action as the finger opening is a bit tight.
Accuracy: I have not specifically tested out the Crosman Triple Threat so far but I would be very surprised if it was any different than the standard Crosman 357 and the Crosman Vigilante I have already done Field Test Reviews for. Other than the shape of the outer barrel, both of these guns are virtually the same including the frame and the 6 inch barrels. Back in 2012 when I tested out the Crosman 357 I averaged around 400 fps using mid grain lead pellets and was able to get a 1 to 1.5 inch multi-shot grouping at 30 feet away from my paper target. I will be making an update Field Test Shooting Video so we will see if I can replicate these results with the standard Crosman 357 and Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver.
Build Quality: The CCrosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is a fairly basic pistol that incorporates a variety of length plastic outer barrels and inner steel barrels (3/6/8 inches), the grips are also plastic as expected and so are the magazines and sights. Most everything else is metal including the receiver, trigger and hammer. This line of Crosman 357 pistols has been around for decades so you can expect hours of fun and reliable shooting with their multi-barrel dual ammo version.
Realism: There are for sure a lot more realistic looking Replica Revolvers out there with swing out cylinders that eject the shells just like their real steel counterparts, but where the Crosman Triple Threat shines is in performance, reliability and consistency. You will get more shots per CO2, higher fps and better accuracy with the Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver over other more realistic Revolvers on the market.
Pros:
Inexpensive Pellet revolver with a proven track record that goes back decades.
Good usage of metal parts where you need them most. (Metal trigger, hammer, frame, barrel, CO2 Tab screw
Single and double action trigger for action and more focused shooting.
Excellent accuracy and good power with a reasonable amount of shots per CO2 (based on similar versions).
Fully adjustable rear sight.
Riffled steel barrels (All three of them).
3 different barrel choices (3/6/8 inches) depending on the look and how compact you want it to be.
CO2 and tab are nicely hidden and use all metal.
Come with both a Pellet and BB magazines..
Cons:
Outer barrels are plastic but very solid. Metal would have added a bit more weigth perhaps better balance?
Grips and trigger pull length may be a bit long for smaller handed people when shooting in double action.
Not your most real revolver out there in terms of replicas out there but probably more usable then most.
No white dots on the sights.
Comments: The Crosman Triple Threat CO2 Dual Ammo Revolver is basically another reskinned Crosman 357 at the end of the day with a ton of options including 3 different barrel lengths that will change the look, size and power depending on your needs. You also have the choice of what ammo you want to use, cheaper 4.5mm Steel BB’s or more accurate and even higher velocity lead pellets for greater downrange energy and precision. If you are not sure which Crosman 357 type revolver to get? The standard 357… the Vigilante or the Triple Threat, maybe go with the Triple Threat at the end of today as it offers the most options and variety of configurations.
I love making these Mystery Box Unboxing Videos as many of the items inside are actually real mysteries to me, some I may have an idea of but even these items are new to me so it’s fun to open them up and check them all out. In this October 2023 Mystery Box Video I checkout 9 items ranging from AEG Airsoft Rifles to Airsoft , BB and Pellet Pistols. There is even a new Steel BB product from Sig Sauer that is a compact rifle with a 3 round burst option when shooting.
This is not exclusive to Airguns since trends of Airguns are highly influenced by what type of Real Steel Pistols are popular to people. This is often based on what people see portrayed in movies and TV Series, and also promoted online. There is for sure an overlap in what is popular and it is hard to say what is influencing what? Is it the popularity of Pistols out in the real world that influences what we see being used in the movies and on TV? Or is it what we see in Movies and TV that influences our choices of pistols out in the real world? Perhaps it is a combination of both?
My list is based on my own personal experience and does not represent the entirety of types of Pistol designs available.
I have made a fair amount of video reviews for the Dan Wesson Line of AIrguns that encompass Table Top and Field Test Reviews on several versions of the Dan Wesson line: BB, Pellet, Airsoft, in a variety of barrel and color choices. It has been a while, so why not make another Review Video to revisit the Dan Wesson Line and so this time here we have the Steel BB version in a 2.5 inch barrel length. As always I will test they CO2 Revolver to find out what the velocity is and how accurate it is shooting at a paper target. Also make sure to watch my Table Top Video for specifications, details and closeup video.
Here we go with the Velocity test! I placed a brand new CO2 in the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver and shot a cylinder full of 4.5mm steel BB’s that weigh 5.1 grain through my Chronograph. The temperature was average so about room temperature. Only the last 4 of my shots registered on my Chronograph as it was acting up a bit on me at first two shots but I did manage to average 332 fps with the last four. The first two shots would have been a little bit faster had they registered on my chronograph so this may have brought up the average a bit to say around 334…
I then placed a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and proceeded to unload a full 6 round cylinder into it, I was shooting in single action with the hammer cocked back between shots. I was also using a semi rested shooting position with my hands resting on a sand bag up front and seated in the back for stability. Generally speaking even with Steel BB’s I can get close to a 1-2 inch grouping with hess Dan Wessons but this time my 6 shot grouping only produced a 3 inch group? It was probably me as there is always some human error involved and each test can result in different results so keep that in mind. The grouping was well centered out of the box but the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver does have fully adjustable sights in case yours is a bit off.
It never get’s old loading up the shells with ammo and placing them in the cylinder followed by either quick action shooting or more relaxed and accurate single action shooting, then repeating again and again… The original Dan Wesson line of revelers has been around for a long time now and if I am not mistaken was the first Airgun revolver to use reloadable shells. We now have more refined 715 version of the Dan Wesson which does have some improvement but the original versions still hold strong and are very capable and fun shell loading revolvers that come it a bit lower price tag then the newer 715 versions so no matter which version you get you will have lot of fun shooting and reloading these enjoyable Airguns!
Type: BB Revolvers. Manufacturer: ASG Model: Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold Materials: Mostly metal. Weight: 1.9 pounds. (862 grams) Barrel: Metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Revolver, single and double action. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 6 rounds (removable shells). FPS: 327
Trigger Pull: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver shoots in true modern revolver style offering single and double action. The double action has a bit of friction to it since the cylinder is being rotate during the first part of the trigger pull and there is a spring fed metal gasket between the barrel and the cylinder that creates a seal but does add some resistance to the trigger pull in double action. Single action is much lighter as expected since pulling the hammer back turns the cylinder removing that friction point from the equasion.
.Accuracy: So far I have not done my Filed Test Shooting Video for the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver, but I plan to in the near future as a revisit since I have made a lot of similar Field Test Videos for the Dan Wesson line of products in 4.5mm Steel BB and 6mm Airsoft, here is a link to me shooting the 8 inch a while back in my old setup. Wow, this one goes back to 2014 almost 10 years ago!
Build Quality: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver overall is really well built with good weight to it and a nice fit and finish, I do like the Gold version in this 2.5 inch version. It is almost all metal with the exception of the grips which are made of a semi hard plastic. One beef I have with the original ASG Dan Wesson line of revolvers are how the grips slide back to access the CO2, closing them can be a bit of a chore as they can come off their track super easily. The other complaint I hear about them is the play in the trigger and hammer side to side.
Realism: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver like all the other ASG Dan Wesson Revolvers is very realistic with its realistic pop out cylinder and 6 removable shells you can reuse and load up for numerous rounds of shooting. You can also buy additional shells and have them preloaded and ready to go in the Speed loader to speed things up. Two things about the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver that take away a bit from the realism would be the non recessed barrel and the rather large space in front of the hammer. A real steel Dan Wesson or even most revolvers do not have this large space. I believe they did this to allow for the internal valve system. The newer Dan Wesson 715 however was designed with a smaller space in front of the hammer.
Pros:
It's a revolver with actual shells! Gives you the feeling of a real 6 shooter.
Almost all metal design with good weight and feel.
Lots of detail in this gun, very well made, fit and finish is very good.
Good power and good accuracy. (going off of already done older reviews)
Fully adjustable rear sight for windage and elevation.
Can add the included accessory rail for more options (optical or red dot sight…).
Dan Wesson licensed via ASG.
Gold finish is unique. (Gold is the Best!)
Moulded and textured pistol grips.
Grips fully hide CO2 screw.
Can shoot in both double and single action for action shooting or more accurate shot placement.
Cons:
Plastic CO2 screw tab.
Plastic grip setup can be a bit awkward to close.
2.5 inch does not have the recessed barrel.
Hammer and trigger are a bit sloppy compared to 715 version.
Comments:
It’s been a while since I reviewed one of the first generation ASG Dan Wesson Revolvers and the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver does bring back some memories for me going back almost a decade. If I’m not mistaken this revolver was the first one to implement actual removable and reloadable shells making Airgun Replica Revolvers a lot more interesting and realistic! I do kind of prefer the newer 715 version as they are even beefier than the original ASG Dan Wessons and ASG has fixed the sloppy hammer and trigger along with the space in front of the hammer has been reduce making the 715 even that much more realistic.
Watch my Vimeo Video Table Top Review for the Dan Wesson 2.5 Inch Gold BB Revolver:
In this Field Test Shooting Video I put the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle through my standard Replica Airguns Indoor Field Test protocol by first testing out the velocity and placing 5 rounds through my Chronograph to see what the actual real world fps is using 14.3 grain lead pellets. I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and place 10 pellets into it to see what type of grouping I can get. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video for this Break Barrel Spring Piston Pellet Rifle then make sure to do so for more details, specifications and close up video.
Starting off with my real world velocity test for the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle, I went with 14.3 grain lead pellets which are I would say on the heavier side. Even so I managed to hit 478 fps which produced a nice 7.26 foot pounds of energy which by the way is almost 10 Joules! If you are wondering about Canadian legalities, as long as I do not go over 500 fps AND go over 4.2 foot pounds (both thresholds must be exceeded), then this Airgun is considered a non-regulated firearm and does not require a firearms license.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of my Indoor Field Test in the Replica Airguns Sea Can. As always I placed a brand new paper target 30 feet downrange and proceeded to shoot ten 14.3 grain lead pellets from a rested and seated shooting position to allow for best possible results with as little human error but I am imperfect so some human error is always present. I was using the open fiver optic sights on the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle rather than a scope even thought there is a dovetail rail with included scope stop. To be honest I was expecting a better grouping, something close to half an inch but on this day with this ammo choice I was closer to 1.5 to even 2 inches. I did see several pellets land in a tighter sub group but some came out of this group enlarging the grouping. I would like to try a different pellet choice to see if I can do better as I believe this rifle has way more potential.
In terms of power the Webley Valuemax 22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Pellet Rifle is about has high as you can go before it becomes a regulated firearm here in Canada so no complaints in that department. Again I was disappointed in the accuracy but I honestly believe a different pellet choice could fix that problem as I have seen often with other Pellet Rifles. Once the right pellet choice is made and granted a more consistent and tighter grouping is achieved, this Spring Piston Pellet Rifle could make a decent small pest control airgun!
Type: Pellet Rifle. Distributer:Webley & Scott. Model:Valuemax. Materials: Metal and polymer build. Weight: 6.4 pounds (2900 grams). Barrel: 17.7 inches (450mm), rifled. Total Length: 43 inches (1092mm) Propulsion: Spring Piston Action: Break Barrel. Ammunition Type: .22 Caliber Pellets. Ammunition Capacity: Single Shot. FPS: 499.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is fairly nice There is a little bit of very light take up followed by a vert light release , the take up or travel length can be adjusted on this Air Rifle but that is the only trigger adjustment you can make and perhaps all that is needed.
Accuracy: I have not performed my Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle but I did get to take around 20 or so shots with it when I was trying to get it to diesel for me. It looks ot me like it is going to be nice and accurate as I was not even really going for accuracy and it seemed to already be grouping fairly tight. I was recoding fps using my Chronograph as I was trying to find out if by adding some oil to the spring piston chamber could get it to diesel which it never did for me, I was however to establish that the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle shot right around 470-480 fps using 14.3 grain lead pellets which worked out to right around 7.32 foot pounds of energy. I will know a lot more when I do my official Field Test Shooting Video next week.
Build Quality: Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is built to be a value priced Airgun hence the name (Valuemax), that said it is maid well enough with lots of metal and of course some plastic or in this case mostly nylon as the stock is a solid nylon piece. Other than the stock the plastic parts are found to be in the sights and trigger guard, everything else seems to be metal.
Realism: The Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is not a replica or copy of any real steel gun in production but it does look like a traditional hunting rifle in basic shape so make sure to transport thank airgun as if it was a real gun. Either in a gun case or perhaps a blanket in your trunk and always obey any laws for gun position and transportation in your area.
Pros:
Inexpensive price tag for well made decent performer.
Initial test showed to have good accuracy and power! (more to come).
Fully adjustable sights with optical TRUGLO Fiber Optics.
Can add a magnified optical scope using the top built in dovetail rail.
Nylon fiber stock is durable and functional with the addition of a vented rubber buttplate.
Trigger feels decent and is also adjustable for travel length.
Rear thumb safety resets after each break of the barrel.
Nice light and short single action trigger.
Would be good for small pest control because of decent FPS and good accuracy.
Cons:
Included sights are mostly plastic.
The Valuemax version has a more basic less adjustable trigger.
Detuned down to under 500 fps for Canada import as non-regulated Firearm.
Comments: I am looking forward to performing my Indoor Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle to see what it can really do in terms of accuracy so stay posted for that video next week. Overall if you are lucky enough to already have one or can get your hands on one since this rifle is discontinued in some area, I think this is a great Break Piston Air Rifle especially if you live in Canada and want the most bang for your buck. I am not only talking about cost verses features, I also mean power and energy since the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is a .22 caliber Air Rifle that can shoot really close to 500 fps with a nice heavy grain lead pellet achieving decent energy levels reasonable enough for small pest control. The Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle is not feature less, it does include a reseting safety, anti bear trap system, dove tail mounts with an included scope stop, fiver optic adjustable sights and a vert ergonomic textured nylon stock. All in all great value for what you pay!
My Vimeo Videos for the Webley Valuemax .22 Caliber Spring Piston Break Barrel Rifle:
In this Field Test Shooting Video I test out Crosman’s latest version to the 357 line of CO2 Revolvers and perform both my Velocity and Accuracy test using both .177 caliber Lead Pellets and 4.5mm Steel BB’s to see which ammo has better velocity/power and is most accurate. Also make sure to watch my Table Tope Video Review where I go ver specifications and features and show the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver up nice and close.
Starting with the velocity portion of my Indoor Field Test Shooting video I placed a brand new 12 gram CO2 into the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver and tested out some 7 grain .177 caliber Lead Pellets. I was able to average 389 fps in what I would consider normal indoor temperature ranges so you can expect a bit higher velocities in outdoor weather conditions. Moving on the 4.5mm 5.1 grain Steel BB’s, I averaged a bit lower at 360 fps which may seem confusing since the Steel BB’s are lighter than the Lead Pellets? The Lead Pellets fit the barrel much more snug stoping any CO2 from getting around them which helps increase the fps over the Steel BB’s which are a hard metal and need to be slightly smaller in diameter and therefore do let some CO2 get by reducing the pressure behind them.
For my accuracy porting of the the Indoor Field Test I was going to place 6 shots from each magazine into my paper target setup 30 feet down range but ended up using all 10 rounds for the pellet magazine, perhaps because I was just having too much fun :) Since the BB magazine only holds 6 rounds my shot grouping for BB’s only included 6 shots so keep that in mind for the final results. All said and done the Lead Pellets outperformed the Steel BB’s once again getting about a 1.5 inch grouping over the 2.5 inch grouping for the Steel BB’s. And I know the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is more than capable of getting a .5 to 1 inch grouping from previous Field Tests I have made using similar 357 type Crosman Revolvers.
The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is just one of those must have old school classic Air Pistols I think everyone should own at least some sort of version of. I do like the look of the Vigilante barrel with it’s more modern and aggressive design and functional top and bottom rails for adding on accessories. The ability to choose what ammo type you want to shoot is also a plus and the price point is bang on for a nice CO2 Air powered Revolver.
Type: Pellet & BB Revolver Manufacturer: Crosman Model:Vigilante Materials: Metal and Plastic. Weight: 2 pounds (908 grams). Barrel: 6 inches rifled. Length: 11.36 inches. Propulsion: CO2 x 1 Action: Revolve , single and double action trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's / .177 caliber Pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 6-BB / 10-Pellet round rotary magazines. FPS: 465-BB’s / 435-Pellets.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is rather nice in single action with virtually zero take-up and it has a not too light weight with a predictable feel to it. In double action it does get much longer and heavier but still very usable. If you have larger thicker finger then you may want to start off in single action as the finger opening is a bit tight.
Accuracy: I have not specifically tested out the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver so far but I would be very surprised if it was any different than the standard Crosman 357 I tested back in 2012. Other than the shape of the outer barrel, both of these guns are virtually the same including the frame and the 6 inch barrels. Back in 2012 when I tested out the Crosman 357 I averaged 402 fps using 6.9 grain pellets and was able to get a 1 inch multi-shot grouping at 30 feet away from my paper target. Not sure if this was the entire 10 round mag or not? I will be making an update Field Test Shooting Video so we will see if I can replicate these results with the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver.
Build Quality: The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is a fairly basic pistol that incorporates a plastic outer barrel and inner steel barrel, the grips are also plastic as expected and so are the magazines and sights. Most everything else is metal including the receiver, trigger and hammer. This line of Crosman 357 pistols has been around for decades so you can expect hours of fun and reliable shooting with it.
Realism: There are for sure a lot more realistic looking Revolvers out there with swing out cylinders that except shells just like their real steel counterparts but where the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver shines is in performance. You will get more shots per CO2, higher fps and better accuracy with the Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver over other more realistic Revolvers on the market.
Pros:
Inexpensive Pellet revolver with a proven track record that goes back decades.
Good usage of metal parts where you need them most. (Metal trigger, hammer, frame, barrel, CO2 Tab screw
Single and double action trigger for action and more focused shooting.
Excellent accuracy and good power with a reasonable amount of shots per CO2.
Fully adjustable rear sight.
Can mount a bunch of accessories on the picatinny barrel top and bottom rails.
CO2 and CO2 tab are nicely hidden and use all metal.
Comes with both a Pellet and BB magazine.
Cons:
Outer barrel is plastic but very solid. Metal would have added a bit more weight and perhaps better balance?
Grips and trigger pull length may be a bit long for smaller handed people when shooting in double action.
Not your most realistic revolver in terms of replicas out there but I would say more usable than most.
No white dots on the sights.
The Crosman Vigilante CO2 Pellet and BB Revolver is basically a reskinned Crosman 357 at the end of the day but I have to say it is my favorite looking Crosman 357 out there with its aggressive barrel design. And the added bonus are the top and bottom Picatinny rails which make for mounting accessories like Red Dots, Lasers and Tac Lights super easy! if you’re looking for function over realism at a price point that is more than fair then pick yourself up one of the Crosman Vigilante’s from our Replica Airguns Store!
Perhaps you might call this a followup video since I already made a full Field Test Shooting Video of the all black version of this pistol and you may wonder if the color of a gun could in some way effect how it performs? Well I don’t think color would really matter but it has been over 6 years since I did my original Field Test Shooting video fo the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver and so perhaps some things have changed, maybe my shooting is better or worse? At any rate let’s find out.
Starting off with my Chronograph test I was able to get an average 6 shot velocity of 348 fps which is about 40 fps less than my testing 6 years ago of 390 fps, perhaps the temperatures where a bit different? Perhaps the valve setups of the guns was not the same? By the way the temperature was 23 degrees Celsius in the indoor Airgun Sea Can Shooting Range and I was using a brand new 12 gram CO2 along with 5.1 grain zinc coated steel BB’s.
Moving on to the accuracy test, surely I would get a similar 1 inch 6 shot grouping from the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver, after all it’s been 6 years and I must be a much more advanced shooter… Well there again the Chrome Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum CO2 BB Revolver did not perform as well as the black one from my 2014 Field Test? Again maybe the steel BB’s I was using where not of the same quality? Maybe I simply had one too many espresso shots? As the video shows this time around I was only able to get about a 2 inch 6 shot grouping from the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver. Still not bad but I was hoping for better result or at least the same as before.
I could do this test again and get completely different results using perhaps another brand of CO2 on a warmer day with higher quality Steel BB’s and just maybe with me on my game a little bit better? At the end of the day 350 fps is perfectly fine for putting holes in pop cans and a 2 inch group at 30 feet will get you on most targets every time so I’m not going to sweat it too much. If you are looking for a shell loading CO2 BB Revolver the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver is for sure one of my top picks.
Type: BB air revolver Manufacturer:Umarex. Model: Colt Python 375 Materials: Almost entirely all Metal. Weight: 2.75 pounds (1218 grams). Barrel: 5.5 inches, metal non-rifled. Propulsion: 12 gram CO2. Action: Revolver, single & double actions. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 6 round cylinder. FPS: 400.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver is good in both single and double action, it’s nice that you have the shorter lighter single action trigger for slower more accurate shooting but you can also blast away in double action when you feel like it. The hammer on the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver is firm with not very much wiggle which some other revolvers in this category do have.
Accuracy: Based on my results shooting the Umarex Colt Python 357 which is essentially the same gun in a different finish. The results I got shooting my 6 round group from a 30 foot out semi rested position where good overall. Vertically there was about a 2 inch spread while horizontally there was about a 1 inch spread. I did find the plastic tips on the brass shells seemed to be a bit tight at first and this is when I did most of my Chronograph and target shooting. I believe the tightness effected the consistency of the FPS which also effected the accuracy especially up and down. I did get one shot out of the Umarex Colt Python 357 well over the claimed 400 fps but again the fps was rather erratic most likely because of the snug BB fit due to shell break-in.
Build Quality: The Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver being mostly metal has a very good build quality and is on par with the Dan Wesson 715 shell loading revolver. It has a nice weigth adn balance to it and feels really good in the hand! The only real plastic I could find was in the grips and the shell tips. Fit and finish was also good with no noticeable chrome wear or sloppy workmanship. It will be interesting to see how the Chrome finish wears over time compared to the black finishes fodun on most KWC made Airguns.
Realism: TheUmarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver overall is a close copy a the real steel Colt Python 357 styled revolver. I did notice the rear portion of the receiver (between the rear cylinder and hammer) to be a bit longer perhaps to accommodate the CO2 valve length, but other than that, this pistol is super close to the original Colt Python 357 styled revolver it is based on. Again being all metal gives this CO2 BB revolver very realistic weight and feel and the loadable brass shells make using this gun almost exactly like using a real shell loading revolver but for much less cost per shot and of course a lot less recoil on the hands and noise to be had.
Pros:
Shells loading revolver give you the feeling of loading and shooting a real revolver.
Mostly all metal design.
Lots of detail, well made, chrome looks nice, not sure if it will wear better than the black finish found on most KWC made pistols?
Good overall weight, almost 3 pounds.
Should have good overall power, accuracy and shots per CO2 (based on my previous Colt Python testing).
Fully adjustable sights.
Well hidden CO2 Screw.
Recessed barrel.
Nice Trigger pull in both single and double action.
Cons:
Grips are a bit rough and wood grain is only OK.
Grips may be a bit large for people with small hands.
Decent enough Colt Python 357 replica but the frame is a bit long between the cylinder and the hammer.
Comments:
It’s been a while since I reviewed a Shell Loading Airgun and this one is pretty much the same Airgun I have reviewed in the past in both the KWC and Umarex Distributed forms. It has been almost 6 years since I took a look at one on my table and it still hods up today. I plan on performing another Field Test Shooting Review for the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver to see if I can replicate the same good results I did back in 2014 when I tested it out on my deck. If you’re looking for a shell loading revolver in the 357 design then for sure checkout the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver as an option.
My Vimeo Table Top Review for the Umarex Colt Python 357 Magnum Chrome CO2 BB Revolver:
Type: CO2 Bolt action pellet pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Webley. Model:Webley Nemesis. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 2 pounds (907 grams). Barrel: 6.25 inches metal rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Bolt action repeater, single action only trigger. Ammunition Type: .177 / .22 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 14/ 12 round double sided rotary magazines. FPS: Claimed 430 / 370.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is rather good, there is just a little bit of take up with a light and crisp release. You will have to work the bolt to engage the internal hammer for single action only shooting.
Accuracy: This is one of those times when I actually have already done my Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol and it performed well. My test version was the .177 caliber model with a claimed fps of 430 and I got exactly that with a 5 shot average sting on my Chronograph. I was using 6.9 grain lead pellets so not the lightest or heaviest pellets. I then placed 14 rounds into my paper target setup 30 feet down range and proceeded to get a 1.5 inch 14 round grouping. That’s with no previous time shooting this Airgun so I know it is for sure capable of sub 1 inch grouping with open sights. Keep in mind you can mount a laser, red dot or optical sight on this Airgun very easily for even better potential accuracy!
Build Quality: TheWebley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol on the outside is pretty much an all plastic Airgun but it does have good weight to it at 2 pounds so there must be a fair amount of internal metal parts. The barrel and bolt for sure are metal! The plastic does seem very good quality with nice fit and finish throughout the Airgun.
Realism: The Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is not styled specially to look like any particular one gun but I have to say it does have an overall Glock look to it but in a much larger form factor. For a CO2 bolt Action Pellet Pistol it is fairly modern looking compered to other target styled pellet pistols out there. Available From: The Replica Airguns Store.
Pros:
First multi-shot rotary mag CO2 Pellet pistol I have come across.
Good accuracy and power!
Can add a red dot or optical sight to it using the top built in Dovetail rail.
Can add a laser or tac light using the bottom built in Weaver Picatinny rail.
Has a nice modern look to it for a target pellet pistol.
Rifled steel barrel.
Fiber optic sights adjustable for windage.
Nice light and short single action trigger.
Allen key and magazine storage compartment built into airgun.
Would be good for small pest control because of decent fps and good accuracy.
Cons:
Doesn’t like all pellet sections.
Sights are not adjustable for elevation.
Comments:
The Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is not really a Replica Airgun so to speak but it’s nice to shoot a dedicated target pellet pistol once in a while and the Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is that for sure but with a more modern and cool looking exterior than most. The Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is also one of the first bolt action Air pistols I have come across that has a rotary magazine which combined with decent power and accuracy could make it usable for small pest control since you do have quick follow up shots just in case the first shot doesn't get the job done. I will say the Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is a bit pellet picky especially if the skirting on your pellet choice is narrow. I would advise you to choose a more chunky pellet with a wider skirt which will make magazine indexing smooth and consistent.
The Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol, so far I have not reviewed an Airgun like it. Yes I have reviewed bolt action CO2 Pellet Pistols in the past but not one with a rotary magazine for much quicker followup shots. This is by no means as quick as a semi auto shooter but being able to quickly work the bolt action without having to manually place a pellet in the breach area sure does speed things up.
On the box Webley claims up to 420 fps with the ,177 caliber version the Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol I was testing and I was able to get an average of 430 fps using a brand new CO2 along with RWS 6.9 grain lead pellets. I did find the RWS pellets I was using did not feed all that well perhaps because they had a fairly narrow waist on them which does effect the way pellets are held in the rotary magazine. The temperature was fairly normal at right around room temperature.
For my accuracy portion of the Field Test Shooting Video for the Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol, I switched to Sig Sauer .177 caliber lead pellets and they worked much better in terms of chambering cleanly for me. I found the Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol shot a bit high on my paper target placed 30 feet away, so I set my sights on the bottom ring which placed almost all my 14 shots right in the bullseye. My 14 shot string was grouping around 1.5 inches but I am sure the Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol could shoot quarter sized objects at 30 feet downrange all day long once you get use to it.
The trigger on the Webley Nemesis Bolt Action CO2 Pellet Pistol is one of the highlights of this air pistol, it really feels great. Combine this with nice high consistent fps and excellent accuracy and the Webley Nemesis is a really interesting CO2 Pellet Pistol is a great target shooter with potential for up close small pest control.
I keep getting more and more really cool airguns to review and it’s been hard to keep up with them all and get out Table Top and Field Test videos for each new product. I at least want to be able to get the word out so to speak for some of the new Airguns that come across my tassel even if I may not be able to get to their full reviews right away.
That said I have two new Airguns that we have in our Replica Airguns Stores to show everyone, the Webley Nemesis in .177 Caliber Pellet and the G&G GPM1911 GBB Airsoft Pistol. Both could not be any more different for sure but I really like each of them for their own reasons.
The Webley Nemesis is a very unique CO2 powered pistols since it is bolt action like many of the corpsman pistols but the Webley Nemesis .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol comes with a duel sided rotary magazine that holds 7 rounds on each side, the .22 caliber version holds 6 rounds on each side. The .177 caliber version can shoot up to 450 fps while the .22 caliber version has a claimed fps of up to 370. I look forward to testing and reviewing the Webley Nemesis .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol as soon as I can.
I also showcase the G&G GPM1911 GBB Airsoft Pistol which is a well priced basic A1 styled 1911 that is really well built and about one of the heaviest full metal 1911’s I have come across to date hitting the scale at nearly 2 pounds and 4 ounces. Another Replica Airgun I look forward to treating out!
This may be a bit confusion to some of you but Crosman has done a bit of a rebrand and is now going by the name of Velocity Outdoor. This is because Crosman has been acquiring more and more products over the years that are not necessarily airgun related and felt that putting all the brands under the name Velocity Outdoor made more sense from a company stand point. Of course in this video we are going to focus in on the Crosman Products within Velocity Outdoor.
So what’s new? Well an even better Crosman DPMS SBR! How can you make the Crosman DPMS SBR even better? By creating an updated or version 2 called the Bushmaster MPW. It comes in two tone black and false dark earth with a shorter hadnguard yet it keeps it’s barrel leith by extending the barrel right to the end of the mock suppressor. Tis can also swap out the but stock with any AR but stock and the Bushmaster MPW comes with a red dot sight. Internally the Bushmaster MPW and the Crosman DPMS SBR are the same.
Some of you may remember the Crosman Night Stalker CO2 Pellet Rifle? That product was retired years ago but Crosman has used the name in a new CO2 BB Pistol called the Night Stalker. The Crosman Night Stalker Pistol has a built in guide rod styled laser, has blowback operation along with a stick magazine. This should be a fun plinker with its laser sight.
Going even further back to the old Crosman 357 days, this revolver styled CO2 air pistol just seems to live on and on being revamped just a little each time by Crosman. Now you can get it in their Triple Threat package. Basically it’s the same Crosman 357 frame that comes with three barrels you can swap out as needed. You get a three inch snub nosed barrel, a six inch barrel similar to the Vigilante and then an eight inch Dirty Hairy styled barrel. Who says you can’t have it all?
In this Field Test Shooting Video Review I test out the Pellet version of the Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Revolver to see how well it performs in the Indoor Airgun Shooting Range. I first put 5 shots through my Chronograph to see what the real world fps is and then I shoot a full cylinder of pellets at my paper target setup 30 feet down range so we can get an idea on how accurate the Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Pellet Revolver really is.
For my Chronograph velocity portion of this test I used a brand new CO2 with 8.18 grain Sig Sauer lead pellets, the indoor temperature was around 18 degrees Celsius or 64 degrees Fahrenheit. My Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Pellet Revolver was about to average 351 fps with fairly heavy lead pellets, not bad! IN warmer conditions or using lower weight higher velocity pellets I am sure the fps will get up and over 400 feet per second.
Next I reloaded the 6 round cylinder with the same 8.18 grain Sig Sauer lead pellets and placed them in on target 30 feet down range. I was shooting in Single Action for best accuracy and also using a rested seated shooting position with a sand bag up front to rest my hands on. I was very impressed with who well centered the Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Pellet Revolver shot, I even got 3 rounds right in the bullseye, 3 of the rounds go outside the bullseye just a bit to the right resulting in about a 2 inch 6 shot grouping. I am sure I could tighten this up with a bit more trigger time using the Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Pellet Revolver
If your looking for a more beefy shell loading revolver than for sure consider the Webley MKVI .455 CO2 Shell Loading Revolver line, both the BB and pellet versions perform well and the break barrel design makes them super easy to reload without even having to take the shells out if you choose not to. Accrued and power is up to par and the over quality is also very good.
In this Revolver comparison video I look at a variety of different types of Revolver Airguns and compare them to each other to determine which one I feel is the best Revolver styled Airgun. My final choice is of course based on my own personal opinion.
I have often been asked which of the Shells for the Shell Loading Revolvers work in which Shell Loading Revolvers? After all many of them look a lot alike so can you mix and match Shells for the various types of Shell Loading Revolvers?
In this Vimeo Instructional Video I test out a bunch of Shells to see which ones actually will work or not work in several of the most popular Shell Loading Revolvers.
Some of the Shell Loading Revovers Tested in this Instructional Video are:
