I have only tested out another similar Crossbow setup one other time so this is not my normal Field Test Review. Like last time when I made my Bear X Desire XL Crossbow Field Test Video, in this Field Test Video I record my Chronograph velocity for the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow at the same time as I shoot at the target so I did not have to make two separate video segments and basically did it all in one go. I did have a bit of a brain fart and forgot I needed to setup two separate cameras, one on the Chronograph and one on the Target, as I generally only need one camera at a time for my usually two segment Field Test Videos. So getting to the point, I did not have dedicated camera on the target while shooting and in hind sight it would have been better to have the camera on the Target rather than the Chronograph as my camera glasses generally record the Chronograph readings for me too. I do walk up to the Target at the end of the video so we do get to see exactly where all the bolts landed, so I can show you the final result at the end of the day.
In terns of velocity, CenterPoint claims a velocity of 191 fps. I was able to get consistently just over 180 fps so pretty close. My Chrono readings using the included 147 grain 6.5 inch aluminum bolts ranged from 180 to 182 fps so very consistent. This gave an overall Foot Pound energy of 10.61 foot pounds so velocity and foot pound energy were just a little bit under the claimed rating! This is enough for small pests for sure, it really comes down to accuracy at this point as you will want to get either a head or shoulder area shot for a humane kill, and I am not sure if this bow is up of the job? You will have to see how accurate it will be for you and make that decision for yourself..
In terms of accuracy I found the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow to be fairly accuracy on the windage side (left and right), basically with all the bolts only being about 2 inches apart side to side. Where it did not perform as well was in elevation with the bolts ranging about 8 inches top to bottom. I am not sure why this was the case as the velocity is very consistent and generally less consistent velocities account for elevation changes. All the bolts hit the target using the included red dot with no pre adjustments but it did shoot just a bit to the right and maybe overall a bit low. This can easily be corrected using the red dot windage and elevation adjustments.
Interestingly the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow has a higher claimed velocity over the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow I tested a while back, yet the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow actually shot a bit faster hitting 190+ fps, not a huge difference but an interesting observation. The CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow does come with a red dot but both have Picatinny Rails so Red Dots will fit on both Crossbows no problem. I am going to address the elephant in the room, if you compare both of these Crossbows they are virtually the same with the exception of the branding and distribution of them. So I would say get either one, the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow is actually less money as it does not come with an included Red Dot but at least right now it is out of stock so your only option may the the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow, both are a lot of fun and pack a lot more punch than your standard non regulated Air Rifle.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow is a single action only trigger as you need ot cock the bow in order for the trigger to be engaged. The trigger mechanism basically just pushes the bow string up and over the lip of the rail releasing it so there is a bit of friction and I would say it is about 10 pounds maybe a bit less. The safety is also engaged when you cock the bow requiring you to take the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow off safe before shooting as an added layer of safety.
Accuracy: I have not made my Field Test Shooting Video for the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow and so I am not sure what to expect from it. I have shot a similar bow, the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow so it should perform similar to that one if you want to check that Field Test Shooting Video out, but I expect the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow to have a little bit more power as it has a rated fps and draw weight a little bit higher than the Bear X Desire XL Crossbow, we will see?
Build Quality: The CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow is actually made pretty decently, yes it is mostly plastic and light weight but feels sturdy enough to hold, the bow itself is fiberglass and the only real metal I can confirm is the cocking rail, mostly everything else other than the nuts and bolts that hold it together are some sort of plastic, The only part that does not feel up to par with the quality is the included red dot, it is fairly entry level but I am sure it will get the job done, and if it stops getting the job done at some point you can upgrade it then, or simply use the included rear iron sight which is fully adjustable.
Realism: The CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow is not a Replica as is what I usually review here on the channel. But I think there is a crossover in terms of interest for a product like this with people that are also interested in Airguns. The other benefit is that it has a lot more power than a non regulated Airgun as the CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow uses nice heavy 146 grain bolts traveling at almost 200 fps which gives an energy rating of around 12 foot pounds. So if raw power is what you are after, then this is your best option for something still compact if you do not have a firearms license.
Pros:
Fairly inexpensive.
Super light weight and compact.
More power than an Airgun yet still quiet to shoot so you can use discreetly just about anywhere with a good back stop setup.
Easy to draw the bow using the stock for leverage.
Safety is automatically engaged.
Picatinny rail already has iron fully adjustable rear sight and comes with a very basic red dot sight to get you started.
Fiber optic front sight.
3 bolts included.
191 fps (12ft/lbs).
Comes with fore grip.
5 portion adjustable rear but stock.
Cons:
Will need a good backstop or will lose lots of bolts.
Takes a little bit of time to set it up but not too hard, just follow the steps in the manual.
Careful not to wash you hadn't or thumb with the string (Ouchy).
Comments:
The CenterPoint Hornet Recurve Compact Crossbow is a nice crossover product that appeals to Airgun enthusiasts as it does not require a firearms license and can be used in a lot more locations than a standard gun. It also has decent power as compared to a non regulated Airgun hitting 12 foot pounds which is at least 4x more than most non regulated Airguns can achieve. In terms of pest control, it does have the power required for small pests but accuracy is not going to be as good as an Airgun so hitting the rather small sweet spot on a small pest is not going to be easy and you want to be humane about it, so make sure if you do plan on using this for some sort of pest control, that you practice your accuracy and are confident in your shot placement. Personally I would just enjoy shooting it as a target bow that literally cost you nothing after purchase as long as you don’t lose the bolts.
Another box showed up at my door and this time I had no idea what was inside it, I asked the boys in the warehouse to surprise me and send some new product as I was low on review items, and in a couple of days later this tall somewhat large box showed up. In this Replica Airguns June Mystery Box Unboxing Video I open the box and take a look at what’s inside. I recommend you just watch the video and enjoy the suspense with me, but if you want to cheat and find out now, then look below at quick breakdown of each item…
I will say right off the bat this Field Test Shooting Video for the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock and Adapter did not go as well as I would have wanted it to! The HPA tank itself worked really well but I believe the adapter was faulty as it was destroying the seals on my tank and not regulating very well.
I still wanted to publish this video regardless as not all reviews go as planned, some fail horribly but I would rather be honest and transparent about it rather than have you believe every product is a perfect.
There will always be problems even with really great products there can be defects. I plan to get a new adaptor and try this Field Test Review Video again but for now you can have some fun watching me at least have some success using the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock on my Rap4 Rap5 MP5.
You can also watch my Table Top Review Video for more details and info on this product!
Looking at the 2016 US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle verses the more resent Canada version we have in our Canada Replica Airguns Store it is hard to really see any difference other than my US version is all black and Canada version is two tone desert tan with black highlights. To be honest I really like both color schemes but that will be a personal preference.
In this Field Test Shooting Comparison video my main goal was to see if there is any significant performance difference between the two versions. Did Sig Sauer perhaps detune the Canada version as is often the case with Canada versions of Airguns? Did Sig Sauer make any changes internally and improve the accuracy or shooting characteristics of their newer Canada model?
I am happy to say both version performed really similar, maybe the US version shot just a little bit hotter but they where within around 5 fps of each other so the same test on a different day could yield the opposite results. The same is true for my accuracy test shooting 10 rounds 30 feet downrange on a paper target. This time the Canada version shot just a tad bit tighter I would say just under an inch grouping but then again the US version was really close with really only 1 pellet extending the grouping out just over an inch. A different test I am sure and the results may be switched? After all I am only human and this was all shot using the open sights on both guns using a sand bag as a rest and sitting in a chair in the back to help with stability.
The good news is we have the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle available in both our Canada and US online Replica Airguns Stores so where ever you buy them from you are basically getting the exact same gun!
This Table Top Comparison video is also a bit of a revisit since I reviewed the US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle back in 2016 when it first came out. I actually had to go across the border and bring it back across with me which can be a lot of fun dealing with Canada Customs border agents. They are well meaning but often don’t fully understand their own import guidelines for Airguns. After about an hour or so I was able to convict the CBSA officer that no my Sig Sauer Airguns where not regulated Firearms and no they did not require any registration or transfer permits.
Anyway that was 5 years ago and now we have the Canada import version which makes purchasing one of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifles so much easier and to be honest there really isn’t any difference as far as I can tell since my original US version even though it had a claimed fps of up to 600 was actually closer to somewhere in the mid 400’s using standard .177 caliber lead pellets.
Below are the basic specifications and if you want more info than that either watch the video or checkout my Original Table Top Review for the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle since both the original US and newer Canada versions are virtually identical…
Type: Pellet Rifle. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP Model: Sig Sauer MPX ASP Materials: Metal and Nylon Fiber build. Weight: 7 Pounds (3300 Grams). Barrel: 8 inch steelrifled. Propulsion: 88 or 90 Gram CO2. Action: Semi Auto,double action only. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 30 rounds belt fed. FPS: Up to 575-600 fps (When shot by a Unicorn) Probably closer to around 450fps
I will be following this Tabel Top Review for the US and Canada Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifles with a Field Test Shooting Comparison to see if anything has really changed interns of velocity and accuracy so stay posted for that video coming out very soon…
I have two new products from Sig Sauer Airgun devision to share with everyone here on the channel. They are both really different but I really like them both. Before I get into it I want to thank Sig Sauer for sending me both of these Airguns.
First up is the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle I showed y at SHOT Show this year. Well now it’s shipping and I have one :) At this time the only version of the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle is the 700 fps 12 not popguns version. This version is legal in Canada but you will need an unrestricted Firearms License since it falls under the definition of a non-centered fired long gun in the Canadian Firearms Act. Perhaps Sig Sauer will come out with a detuned version under 500 fps?
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle uses a 13CI-3000PSI tank situated at the rear of the gun as part of the butt stock. You will need some sort of a pump or scuba pressurization system to refill the PCP tank which will get you up to 150 to 200 shots per fill up. The belt fed magazine holds 30 rounds which you can fire as fast as you can pull the semi auto trigger. By the way the trigger pull indexes the belt magazine while the PCP air pressure works the bolt allowing for a fairly smooth trigger pull. You will need to charge the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle before you start shooting.
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle weighs in at 7.5 pounds, has a 17.5 inch barrel and a total length of 37.5 inches.
Here we go, the first SHOT Show Interview for 2019 and why not kick things off with Sig Sauer. After all Sig Sauer has been super dedicated to bringing new Airgun designs to the airgun community year after year and this year at SHOT Show was no exception!
My favorite item from Sig Sauer this year at SHOT Show was the Sig Sauer P365 ASP, as the name suggests it is based on their 9mm firing real steel Sig Sauer P365 and somehow similar to how they fit 10 rounds of 9mm ammo into such a compact magazine and gun, the BB version also manages to jam a 12 gram CO2 cartridge into a very tiny drop out metal magazine! Really looking forward to getting my hands on this one!
Sig Sauer launched several Airsoft guns, an AEG Airsoft Rifle called the MCX Virtus and two GBB Airsoft Pistols, the M17 and P226. All of them fully licensed and also should be Canada import ready.
Last up but something that we have all been waiting for in an ASP Pellet firing rifle, the Virtus 22 Caliber PCP Rifle. Well the name says it all. It’s basically an MCX Pellet Rifle but now in 22 caliber and with a PCP tank built into the rear stock. In Canada you will need a PAL to buy one but import into Canada should not be a problem for license holders since the 22 Virtus PCP will quality as a long gun.
In this Review Video I focus on the shooting performance of the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle to find out what kind of FPS we can get out of it and exactly how accurate the MPX is from 30 feet back using a fairly stable semi rested shooting position. I'll tell you right away my Chrony Chronograph has officially called it quits and I will be looking at replacing it for future Field Test Shooting videos. Lucky for us Sig sent me their real world inhouse testing using both 5.25 grain high velocity pellets and standard 8.18 grain lead pellets.
Here are the average results Sig achieved from each pellet type shooting an 8 shot string.
5.25 Grain Alloy High Velocity Pellets:
FPS - 506
Energy in Foot pounds - 2.98
Energy in Joules - .1257
Temperature at time of testing - 71 Degrees Fahrenheit
8.18 Grain Standard Lead Lead Pellets:
FPS - 447
Energy in Foot pounds - 3.63
Energy in Joules - .153
Temperature at time of testing - 71.5 Degrees Fahrenheit
In terms of accuracy, this rifle is made to shoot at much further out ranges than 30 feet but I was still able to get on what kind of a grouping is possible with the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. I first shot 10 rounds at my paper target and then had a quick look. I was able to get a nice 1 inch grouping which I am sure I could improve upon with some more shooting time with the rifle. I was also not using a magnified scope, just a standard red dot. I then shot the remaining 20 rounds to finish off the 30 round belt fed magazine and for the most part the majority of the pellets all fell within the first 10 shot grouping and I did rip these shots off pretty quickly, about as fast as I could pull the trigger that is.
All in all the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is a good performer, I am very happy with FPS form an 8 grain pellet consistently hitting 450 FPS, that's plenty fast enough to shoot all kinds of targets even out at further ranges. Accuracy was also consistent even under rushed shooting so I can imagine the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle would make a great trainer for tactical shooting situations. I thing Sig has a real winner here, great looks, excellent quality and good performance all at a reasonable cost. I just hope we get them here in Canada soon...
I wanted to make a quick update video to let everyone know what I will be up to over the next few weeks since it will effect my video production just a little bit, that said I will do my best to keep the videos coming...
If you remember last year around August, I entered a Fitness contest where I competed in Men's Physique. Well I did fairly well and placed 1st in two divisions, Masters and Open. What this means is I am now qualified to compete in my local Provincial Finals this year which is coming up in less than two weeks. The event is called the Vancouver Pro Am and it will be held in Vancouver BC Canada.
To get to the point, my contest prep especially the last couple of week is fairly taxing on me physically and mentally, it also takes up some of my time. So my videos may not be as regular and they may not be as put together since my mind is not working 100% right now due to the lack of food and carbs I am not eating ;) Anyway I will do my best! You can follow my Fitness journey over at www.GetFitOver40.com.
I also talk about two new Sig products I will be picking up next week to review, the Sig Sauer P250 and Sig Sauer P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols. I hope to at least have a preview video for you later on next week.
Type: Pellet Rifle. Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP Model: Sig Sauer MPX ASP Materials: Metal and Nylon Fiber build. Weight: 7 Pounds (3300 Grams). Barrel: 8 inch steelrifled. Propulsion: 88 or 90 Gram CO2. Action: Semi Auto,double action only. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 30 rounds belt fed. FPS: Up to 600 fps (When shot by a Unicorn)
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is actually pretty decent when you consider the first part of the trigger pull is used to advance the belt fed 30 round magazine. One would think that there would be a lot of added friction from the belt but this does not seem to be the case. There is some internal blowback action going on but it is only used to cock the internal hammer/striker which does lesson the overall amount of trigger pull required. The trigger pull is shorter than expected with all that is going on and it's not overly heavy so quick and predictable action shooting is very possible with the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle.
Accuracy: So far I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle but I did have the chance to get out and shoot some rounds down range at my Sig provided Quad Shooting Gallery that I had setup about 35-40 feet away. Even though I did not have my red dot all perfectly sighted in I was still able to hit the smallish metal targets fairly well using the Sig Sauer MPX ASP. In terms of velocity you can expect from the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle, 600 fps is a bit optimistic. Sig did send me a real world fps performance spread sheet they had conducted using both 5.25 grain alloy pellets and 8.18 grain lead pellets shooting 8 rounds and averaging out the fps. The 5.25 grain pellets averaged in at just over 500 fps while the heavier 8.18 grain pellets came in with an average of just under 450 fps. Pretty much what I would expect from a shorter barreled CO2 rifle.
Build Quality: The build quality for Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is excellent, you can tell Sig Sauer had a lot of hands on in the design and production of this Pellet Shooting Air Rifle! The materials used and fit and finish are top notch and the mechanical function again is really good, I am kind of amazed at how well their belt fed rotary magazine design works in terms of feeding and operation. So far I have not experienced any pellet feeding problems at all using both lead and alloy flathead pellets.
Realism: The Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is for the most part designed to be used as a side by side optional training aid for the real steel Sig Sauer MPX Rifle. Sig wanted the pellet version to look and feel as close as posable and Sig has done a good job with this. Other than the lessor recoil and noise factor, the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle works and shoots much the same as a real steel Sig Sauer MPX Rifle.
Pros:
Has to be the best semi auto pellet rifle replica I have seen and shot to date.
Near perfect replica of the real steel Sig Sauer MPX including licensing and trademarks.
Awesome build quality, lots of metal parts and the nylon parts are true to form and very solid.
Rifle has been tested to shoot over 15,000 rounds reliably.
30 round full size belt fed magazine has super high capacity and works flawlessly.
Decent fps performance, about what I would expect from a multi-shot CO2pellet shooter and totally usable.
Trigger feels really good, not too long or to heavy and very consistent feel on every shot.
Fully adjustable pop up front and rear sights.
Lots of rails for your pick of sight options and other add on accessories.
Very accurate with it’s 8 inch rifled barrel.
Cons:
Rear stock is none adjustable so the gun may feel kind of cramped for larger shooters.
Internal blowback action does not advance the belt fed magazine but does cock the internal hammer.
FPS claim of 600 fps seems a bit optimistic compared to real world testing.
Comments:
I have been waiting to get my hands on the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle for some time now and the wait has been worth it for sure. There are really no other guns out there right now other than perhaps the Umarex CX4 Storm that compare to the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle and even so I feel the Sig Sauer MPX is by far the better of the two CO2 Air Rifles. OK so the MPX does not really come close to hitting 600 fps but did you really believe that in the first place? Still consistent 450 fps from a decent grain lead pellet is about what you would expect from a short barreled CO2 rifle. If you do want more fps then look at the MCX with over double the barrel length of the MPX, this will easily get you an additional 100+fps for those of you who thrive on velocity performance. I am fine with 450-500 fps since this is all that is needed to accuracy shoot and nock over most targets at a variety of ranges.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle:
I was excited when I first heard that Sig Sauer was coming out with their own line of pellet shooting airguns and that was about 2 years ago! So it's been a long time coming for me to finally get my hands on one of Sigs own in-house Airguns. Sig Sauer was kind enough to send me three of their ASP (Advanced Sport Pellet) airguns, one of which arrived last week, the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. I will also be receiving Sigs P250 and P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols for review when they are sent to me hopefully soon.
I will be performing my standard Table Top and Field Test Shooting videos for all of the Sig Sauer Airguns being sent to me but wanted to get out this preview video for the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle to give you a little info on it right away and also let you know what's coming up in terms of Sig Sauer product reviews.
In this preview video I do a little bit of fun backyard shooting simply because I could not resist having a go with this awesome air rifle any longer and needed to shoot it. I was not disappointed! Every pellet I placed in the 30 round belt fed magazine fired flawlessly from the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. I used both Sigs high velocity 5.25 grain alloy pellets and some flathead 7 grain RWS lead pellets and all my ammo shot well in the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. I have not done a Chronograph test so far for the Sig MPX but can say the pellets where getting to my Sig Sauer Quad Shooting Gallery Target in no time and I had placed a good 35-40 feet away. Once I figured out my sights I was able to continently hit what looked like pretty small targets from where I was standing, this was no surprise since the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Riflehas an 8 inch rifled barrel.
Sig has done some real world pellet fps testing on their own using both light weight 5.25 grain pellets and heavier 8.18 grain pellets and the numbers for an 8 shot average came in at around 505 fps using 5.25 grain pellets and around 450 fps using 8.18 grain pellets. That's plenty enough power to rip into your targets setup even further down range.
My Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle is the open sight only version but you can get one already paired with Sigs Red Dot system or add your own sighting system, since there are plenty of rails to add just about any kind of accessory to the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle.
Check back shortly for my office Table Top and Field Test Shooting videos for the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle. And when I do finally get the Sis Sauer p250 adn P226 ASP Air Pistols I will have review videos out for them too.
In this 2016 SHOT Show Interview I talk with Dani Navickas from the Airgun division of Sig Sauer. Dani and I discuss Sig's new line of CO2 Blowback Pellet rifles and pistols. Dani talks about some of the behind the scenes information that went into the development and manufacturing of Sig's new line of CO2 Airguns.
Sig CO2 P226 and P250 Air Pistols along with their Sig MPX and MCX Air Rifles have been developed in house by Sig.Sig has been working very closely with a Japanese manufacturer to make sure that every stage of development is to Sig's high standards. The new Sig CO2 Blowback rifles and pistols are made to match the real steal version in almost every way including dimension, weight, functionality, materials used and even trigger pull.
Sig's new Sig MPX and Sig MCX Pellet Rifles have a brand new patented belt fed 30 round pellet magazine that is indexed via the internal blowback action of these rifles smoothing out the trigger action. The Sig P226 and Sig P250 pistols use a double ended 16 round pellet magazine similar to what you would find on Umarex's PX4 Strom blowback pellet pistol.
Look for Sig's new line of CO2 Blowback Pellet Airguns coming out shortly.