I finally got my hands on the new Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol that was introduced at this years SHOT Show, and I have already made my Table Top Review Video so make sure to watch that video for information on specifications, details, Pro’s and Con’s and more close up video… In this Field test Shooting video I focus on the performance of the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol by testing the velocity out with my Chronograph, and I also shoot 10 rounds into a paper target setup 30 feet down range to see what the real world velocity and accuracy truly is.
Starting off with the Velocity portion the test, as always I use a brand new 12 gram CO2 along with standard 5.1 grain Steel BB’s. Temperature for the record was about 22 degrees Celsius or 72 degrees Fahrenheit. Here are the result of my multi shot Chronograph testing as it seemed to keep shooting faster and fast so I ended up using the last 5 shots for my average: 354, 349, 348, 343, 344 fps with an average of 348 fps. That was fairly close but just a bit under the 370 claimed fps. Warmer temperatures could for sure get this Blowback Airgun up to the slightly higher claimed fps.
Next I shot 10 rounds into a fresh paper target 30 feet down range using a semi-rested shooting position, with my hands resting on a sand bag up front, and sitting on a comfortable stool in the back, for somewhat stable shooting. There is always going to be a bit of human factor involved, but I seemed steady on this day, and I did get a nice result for a Blowback CO2 Air Pistol. The Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol shot good for me out of the box. The grouping spread out about 2 inches total well center up and down, just a hair above the bullseye but did wonder off to the left a little bit. Still a very good result for a blowback Airgun.
I was very pleased with the performance of the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. It had a lot more blowback action than I was expecting as the slide spring did feel kind of lazy to me when releasing it at first. The velocity was close to the mark and for sure as claimed in a warmer environment, and the accuracy was as good as you are going to get with a blowback BB Pistol. I didn't even mind the double action trigger at all as the first portion of the trigger is very light with almost no friction and even the release is not very heavy but for sure heavier than a true Single Action Trigger. I also like that you are going to get a lot more magazines worth of shots from a single CO2 out of the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol with it’s semi blowback action and magazine design that seals off the BB into the breach area of the barrel. If you are OK with a DO trigger on a Glock, then I would suggest you chose the Glock 17 MOS Semi Blowback over the Glock 19 MOS Full Blowback simply for the higher fps, better CO2 efficiency and slightly improved accuracy.
I finally got my hands on the new Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol that was introduced this year at SHOT Show and I have already made my Table Top Review Video so make sure to watch that video for information on specifications, details, Pro’s and Con’s and more close up video… In this Field test Shooting video I focus on the performance of the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol by testing the velocity out with my Chronograph and also shooting 10 rounds into a paper target setup 30 feet away to see what the real world velocity and accuracy actually is.
Starting off with the Velocity portion the test, I us a brand new 12 gram CO2 along with standard 5.1 grain Steel BB’s. Temperature for the record was about 22 degrees Celsius or 72 degrees Fahrenheit. Here were the result of my 5 shot Chronograph testing: 278, 275, 273, 273, 271 fps with an average of 274 fps. That was very consistent for a full blowback CO2 Airgun and close to the 280-290 claimed fps. Warmer temperatures could for sure get this Airgun up to the claimed fps.
Next I shot 10 rounds into a fresh paper target 30 feet down range using a semi rested shooting position, so with my hands resting on a sand bag up front and sitting on a stool in the back for somewhat stable shooting. There is always a bit of human factor involved but I seemed pretty steady on this day, and for what I consider to be a good result for a Full Blowback CO2 Air Pistol. The Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol shot a little bit low out of the box but well centered left to right. The grouping spread out about 3 inches total and that was mostly in the elevation so perhaps an inconsistency in velocity may have played a roll. In terms of windage (left to right placement), the group was closer to two inches total.
I was very pleased with the performance of the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol , it shot really close to the claimed velocity with a fairly consistent fps for the most part. The accuracy was also right where I would expect a gun like this to perform and even though it shot a bit low on the bullseye, it was in the ball park and easy enough to simply adjust ones aim point to get more on target. The blowback action is quick and snappy with a nice simulated recoil and the single action trigger feels good. I did end up shooting two full 17 round magazines through this Airgun with no problem, and after letting it warm up a bit there is more than likely a third magazine left of CO2. If you want the most ultra realistic BB version of a Full Blowback Airgun with the ability to add a Red Dot to the top slide, then the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is the prefect choice!
Type:Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Manufacturer:Distributed by Umarex. Model:Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 1.5 pounds (683 grams). Total Length: 7.95 inches (20.2cm). Barrel: Smooth bore 4 inch barrel (10cm). Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto blowback, double action only trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 18 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 370.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is very similar in most ways to a real steel Glock Pistol with the blowback action, which does engage the striker alleviating some of the trigger pull to some degree. That said the trigger is more like a double action trigger in terms of weight and length, as the trigger pull is used to shuttle a BB into the breach, which does require additional trigger length and weight making it more like a double action trigger at the end of the day. The blowback action on this version is not full, but rather partial, so it does not go back as far as the real steel slide would go. The chambering of BB’s and the partial blowback design has an upside allowing for a higher velocity and more shots per CO2.
Accuracy: At this point I have not shot the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, so I can only quote what Umarex is saying in terms of FPS which is around 370. As mentioned earlier, the partial blowback action and the way the magazine seals the BB in the breach helps to increase the FPS to something a lot closer to what a non-blowback BB pistol generally offers in velocity. In terms of accuracy I will have to make my Field Test Shooting Video first before I know for sure, but generally a CO2 Blowback BB Pistol like this will get around a 4 inch grouping based on past similar shooting tests.
Build Quality: Being Glock licensed via Umarex, the, Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol has to be made with Glocks high quality standards in mind. I am not 100% sure who actually makes this Airgun, as Umarex is not so much a manufacturer of Airguns, but more of a distribution and licensing company. I am pretty sure that KWC is making this Airgun for Umarex and KWC has for sure improved their quality over time in terms of fit and finish, so I am happy to say that the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a really well built Airgun.
Realism: The Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol absolutely has most of everything you would want in a Replica Airgun, like blowback action, a working slide catch release, trigger safety, magazine release, and full size drop out metal magazine. Its shortcomings would be that you can not easily field strip its and it does have a trigger closer to a double action only rather than the Glock short and very light single action trigger. I can overlook this because it is very well priced and has a nice high velocity along with a lot of shots per CO2.
Pros:
Good weight and feel to it, build quality seems excellent.
Really nice looking and full featured replica of the original Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS.
Fully Glock licensed via Umarex.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Accessory rail under barrel for adding a laser or tactical light.
MOS (Modular Optical System) on slide for adding a red dot.
Safety built into serial number under the barrel.
Full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 and 18, 4.5mm steel BB’s.
Slide spring is firm, will have a nice blowback recoil effect.
Warning instruction are nice and discreet under the trigger guard.
Not an overly heavy DOA feeling trigger as the blowback pre-cocks the internal hammer/striker but the trigger does move a BB into the breach area.
Because of partial blowback action and magazine design, it has a higher fps and you get a lot more shots than a similar full blowback Airgun.
Working trigger safety like the real steel version.
Cons:
Trigger is more like a DOA trigger which is longer and heavier than a real steel Glock, but not bad.
Sights are non-adjustable which is common with low cost airguns like this one.
Blowback action is not full so not as heavy of a recoil feel as a full blowback Airgun.
Comments:
I was excited when I first saw the Glock 17 and 19 Gen 5 MOS 4.5mm Steel BB Blowback Airguns at SHOT Show this year, and I have been really looking forward to getting my hands on both of them. They both look and feel just as good as they did at SHOT Show, and now all I need to do is test them out and see how they both perform in the Replica Airguns Indoor Sea Can Shooting Range. I know the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is for sure going to have a lot more power over the Umarex Glock 19, but the full blowback action of the Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS may take a win over power from the Glock 17 Gen 5 MOS. It may come down to which one is more accurate? I will have to wait and see so keep watching to find out who the winner is in my books.
Type: Full Blowback CO2 BB Pistol. Manufacturer:Distributed by Umarex. Model:Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 1.5 pounds (655 grams). Total Length: 6.9 inches (17.5cm). Barrel: Smooth bore 3.5 inch barrel (9cm). Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto blowback, single action only trigger. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 17 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 290.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is very similar to a real steel Glock Pistol as the full blowback action allows for a true single action only trigger and it has similar take-up, weight and release which makes this the perfect trainer if you own a similar Glock. Even the trigger safety is functional and not just for show.
Accuracy: At this point I have not shot the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol so I can only quote what Umarex is saying in terms of FP2 which is around 290. That may seem on the low side for a 4.5 BB Pistol even for a blowback Airgun. This is because the blowback is a true full blowback similar to what you commonly find with Airsoft Blowback Airguns This is not a super efficient design as much of the CO2 usage goes to cycling the action of the slide so less is allocated to going down the barrel and propelling the Steel BB. This type of system also uses more CO2 per shot so it will use up CO2 fast.
Build Quality: TheUmarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pisto being a licensed Glock Pistol means it has to conform to Glocks high standard so it is made very well with excellent fit and finish. Like there real steel version the slide is metal and the frame is a polymer, of course there are other metal components throughout like the magazine, inner and outer barrel, slide catch release and many of the internal parts.
Realism: The Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol absolutely looks the part of a Glock 19 MOS. When sitting on the table and even holding it in your hand, you are going to think it's the real deal until of course you drop the magazine and see that it is a CO2 mag. Mostly everything operates like a real Glock 19 MOS and because it is full blowback the slide cycles all the way back and forth and the slide spring is nice and heavy so there is no lag to it, it does not have the clanky metallic sound a lot of CO2 Blowback pistols have which adds even further to the realism. You can even fully feel strip this version just lie a real Glock 19 MOS.
Pros:
Ultra realistic Replica in looks and function.
Good weight and feel to it, build quality seems excellent.
Really nice looking and full featured replica of the original Glock 19 Gen 5 MOC.
Fully Glock licensed via Umarex
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Accessory rail under barrel for adding a laser or tactical light.
MOS (Modular Optical System) on slide for adding a red dot.
Comes with MOC adapter plates.
Full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 and 17 4.5mm steel BB’s.
Slide spring feels really snappy and firm, more than most full blowback Airguns, so it should have a nice heavy blowback recoil feel.
Warning instruction are nice and discreet under trigger guard.
Fully field strippable.
Great feeling single action only trigger as the blowback pre-cocks the internal hammer/strike.
Working trigger safety like the real steel version.
Has an added Cross Bolt safety on the trigger.
Cons:
FPS could be higher but this is generally the case with a full blowback Airgun like this, very similar to Airsoft Full blowback design.
Sights are non-adjustable which is common with low cost airguns like this one.
No built in serial number safety.
Comments:
I was excited when I first saw the Glock 17 and 19 Gen 5 MOS 4.5mm Steel BB Blowback Airguns at SHOT Show this year adn have been really looking forward to getting my hands on them. Essentially the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pisto is built very much like an Airsoft Full Blowback Airgun but it just shoots 4.5mm Steel BB’s rather than 6mm Airsoft BB’s which some people prefer if you are not so much into Airsoft games. Along with being full blowback the MOS system allows for adding a red dot to the rear of the slide so this gives you even more option when adding accessories to the Umarex Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. I am pretty sure this one is going to be my favorite Umarex Glock but I’ll know for sure after I Field Test it!
I also got a few accessor items from a company called GEAR STOCK, Some CO2 in 12 and 88 gram along with some 6mm aluminum Airsoft BB’s. A very cool rechargeable red and green laser that comes in a nice hard shell case and it has a picatinny rail on the bottom she you can stack a second accessory under it.
Here are some links and specs for the Airguns I show off in this mystery box video:
Type: Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by KJ Works. Model:1911 TBC. Materials: Mostly all Metal. Weight: 2.2 pounds (980 grams). Total Length: 8.6 inches (218mm) Barrel: 4.25 inches (108mm) metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto blowback, SAO trigger. Ammunition Type: .6mm plastic Airsoft BB’s. Ammunition Capacity: 24 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 360+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol is exactly what you would expect from a similar real steel 1911, it’s super short and light, the take-up is almost non-existent with a super light release. There is no adjustment on it but I don’t feel it is needed at all as this is not a competition Airgun, KJWorks does make and sell 1911’s more suited for competition shooting. There is just something about a 1911 trigger that I love!
Accuracy: At this point I have not shot the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol or even made my Field Test Shooting Performance Video. I have shot a fair amount of KJWorks Full Blowback Airsoft Pistols and they have in all seemed to perform very well for me. So I’m confident when I get to the Field Test Shooting Video for the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol I will not be disappointed in it.
Build Quality: The KJWorks line of Airsoft Guns are known for their quality build and attention to detail, the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol is no exception. It is a mostly all metal Airgun with the acceptation of the grips and gas tube, and perhaps a couple other small internal parts? Fit and finish is bang on and the slide spring feels nice and firm, which should result in a nice crisp blowback action. There is almost no slide wiggle with the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol which again speaks to the quality and workmanship of KJWorks products.
Realism: I’m not really sure how you could get a more realistic Airsoft Pistol than what you have here with the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol. It is 1 to 1 scale and functions almost identically to a real steel 1911 A1. It has full blowback operation and can be field stripped fully top to bottom. Even the grip safety is required in order to shoot it. This version in order to fit the flared out CO2 cartridges does have indents in the magwell which is different than what you would ind on a traditional 1911 but it is not super obvious.
Pros:
Pretty much all metal pistol with good weight to it.
Full heavy blowback operation.
Excellent fit and finish as always with KJWorks pistols.
High capacity full size drop out magazine that holds the Airsoft BB’s and CO2. (Can get Green Gas mags also).
Comes with barrel extension and threaded barrel tip.
Comes in all black and OD green two tone finish.
Working backstop safety
Nice short and light true 1911 style single action only trigger.
Fully field strip-able.
Cons:
Sight are non-adjustable and do not have any white or fiber inserts.
No rail mounting options.
CO2 magazine sticks out a bit.
Comments:
If you are looking for a traditional 1911 styled semi auto Colt Pistol and don’t want a more modernized 1911 then the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol has that classic look but with a bit of an upgraded magazine and the ability to add a mock compensator mainly to protect and hide the barrel extension which when added will increase the velocity and perhaps also accuracy. I like the all black version but you can also get one in two tone OD Green for a more contrasted look. Looking down the sights will be your biggest challenge with the KJWorks Full Metal 1911 TBC CO2 Airsoft Pistol, as it has standard post and notch sights that do not have any white dots or marking to assist with aiming. It will be an upgrade for sure from a lessor expensive KWC Full Blowback 1911 and I feel ti is worth the additional money especially if you are a big 1911 fan like me.
In this Unboxing Video I checkout a mid sized mystery box and find some new products inside that I will be making future Table Top and Field Test Shooting Videos for. In this Unboxing Preview Video I mainly talk a look at each item mostly for the fist time and I go over some of the basics for each of them. IN my upcoming full review videos I will go way more into detail so make sure to watch those videos when they come out.
So what did I get in this months box of goodies? The first item I unpacked was the KJWorks 1911-TBC CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol. A firmly traditional 1911 with a single stack magazine configuration at least in terms of external size. I am pretty sure the actual Airsoft BB’s will stack side by side to some degre as it does hold 24 rounds. It also comes with a barrel extension and the ability to add a much suppresser to it to cover the barrel extension I would imagine. It is also available in an OD green receiver version.
The next item I grabbed from the box was the NcSTAR FlipDot Mod. 02 Flip-up Red Dot Sight specifically designed with a MOS compatible mounting plate for Glock Pistols like the new Umarex Glocks I checked out at this years SHOT Show. You can mount this compact Flip-up Red Dot sight directly to the slide of these new Glocks and it also comes with some adaptor plate option for attaching it to a Picatinny Rail.
The next item I took a look at was the Umarex Combat Zone Enforcer Airsoft Pistol. A low cost adn simplistic mostly plastic CO2 powered lightweight Airgun with an all metal 15 round stick magazine and a 400 fps claimed velocity. It’s not going to be the most exciting Airgun but there is very little to go wrong and being so light weight makes it super durable in the even of a drop or fall.
Last but perhaps the oust interesting item that came in this months mystery box was the G&G ARP9 3.0P AEG Airsoft Rifle. I kind of butchered the name but I do talk a pretty good look at it in they video. The G&G ARP9 3.0P is a compact AEG Rifle (at least with the stock folded out). It has a unique magazine where the Airsoft BB’s load into 4 separate channels, I am assuming this helps to get more ammo in the magazine (300 rounds) and make it smoother so hopefully less or no jamming. The G&G ARP9 3.0P feels solid in the hand and well made, it also has a claimed velocity of 370 fps which is perfect.
I look forward to making my full Table Top and Shooting Review videos of each of these items so make sure to check back if you are interested in any of them…
This is part 2 of my 2 part Field Test for the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol. In this video (Part 2), I test out 2.7 gram rubber/steel balls (metal core) to find out what the velocity and accuracy is along with the overall joules energy rating. Umarex claims around 11 joules using the 1.6 gram standard rubber balls, I do expect less velocity and possibly less energy downrange with the heavier 2.7 gram ammunition. While I test out the velocity with my Chronograph, I also aim at a paper target setup 30 feet away to see just how accurate this ammo type is, and hopefully I get all 4 of the max rounds close to where I am aiming on the target.
Starting with velocity or power, I was hoping to get into the 250+ fps so I could get somewhere near the claimed 11 joules, but the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol shot more in the higher 100’s resulting in a three shot average of 176 fps. I did chronograph all 4 shots and they were somewhat close in velocity to each other: 159, 187, 176, 180 fps. Even then the average Joules was only around 4 which is a pretty far off the claimed 11 joules and even less than the 5 Joules I got using the standard all rubber 2.6 gram rubber balls. I did use a brand new CO2 and it was not exactly cold in my testing environment so I am too sure what caused the lower results from both ammo types?
While I was recording the velocity I was simultaneously recording the same 4 shots on the target and I did mange to get all 4 shots on my 8x11 paper target fairly well centered with a grouping with three of the 4 shots all within about 2.5 inches of each other adn very well center to the bullseye. One shot did hit a bit lower extending the group to around 5 inches. If this was an intruder I would have for sure been able to hit them easily at 30 feet away all within their main torso area. So in terms of accuracy with both ammo types, the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol was competent when using both the standard rubber balls and the rubber/steel balls I used in this review.
As mentioned in video 1 of this 2 part series, I do like the smaller size of the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol over the non-compact version but it does seem to be down significantly on power as compared to its larger brother adn this was the case using both ammo types. I am not sure if it would be a good deterrent based on the power output I got in my Field Tests. I am sure it would not want to be on the receiving end of this Less Lethal Pistol, perhaps it the intended vital was not wearing any thick clothing it would deter them but even a light jacket would probably stop most of the impact. Maybe at close range some head and face shots would get the job done, but in the heat of the moment I would not count on being able to make those type of consistent shots. My advice is if you want to use the the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol as intended, then go with the non compact version as it does hit the claimed power rating and then some.
This is part 1 of my 2 part Field Test for the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol. In this video (Part 1), I test out the included 1.6 gram solid rubber balls to find out what the velocity and accuracy is along with the overall joules rating. Umarex claims around 11 joules using the 1.6 gram rubber balls. While I test out the velocity with my Chronograph, I also aim at a paper target setup 30 feet downrange to see just how accuracy it is, and if I can get all 4 of the max rounds close to where I am aiming. In Part 2 I swap out the 1.6 gram rubber balls for 2.7 gram rubber'/steel balls that have a metal internal core.
Starting with velocity or power, I was hoping to get into the 300+ fps so I could get somewhere near the claimed 11 joules, but the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol shot more in the mid 200’s resulting in a three shot average of 255 fps. I did chronograph all 4 shots but the last shot was really low for some reason, so I tossed that one out to give the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol the benefit of the doubt. Even then the average joules was only 5 which is a far cry to the claimed 11 joules. I did use a brand new CO2 and it was not exactly cold in my testing environment so I am too sure what caused the lower result?
As I mentioned, while I was recording the velocity I was simultaneously recording the same shots on the target and I did mange to get all 4 shots on my 8x11 paper target fairly well centered with a grouping of about 6-7 inches apart. If this was an intruder I would have for sure been able to hit them easily at 30 feet away all within their main torso area. So in terms of accuracy the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol was very usable.
I do like the smaller size of the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol over the non-compact version but it does seem to be down significantly on power as compared to its larger brother. I am not sure if it would be a good deterrent based on the power output I got in this Field Test. I am sure it would not be enjoyable being on the receiving end of this Less Lethal Pistol, but if the intended victim is wearing any type of heavy clothing I don’t think they would be that concerned by this Airgun. Maybe at close range some head and face shots would get the job done, but in the heat of the moment I would not count on being able to make those type of consistent shots. My advice is if you want to use the the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol as intended, then go with the non compact version as it does hit the claimed power rating and then some.
