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Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol Rubber-Steel Ball Field Test Review

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This is part 2 of my 2 part Field Test for the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol. In this video (Part 2), I test out 2.7 gram rubber/steel balls (metal core) to find out what the velocity and accuracy is along with the overall joules energy rating. Umarex claims around 11 joules using the 1.6 gram standard rubber balls, I do expect less velocity and possibly less energy downrange with the heavier 2.7 gram ammunition. While I test out the velocity with my Chronograph, I also aim at a paper target setup 30 feet away to see just how accurate this ammo type is, and hopefully I get all 4 of the max rounds close to where I am aiming on the target.

Starting with velocity or power, I was hoping to get into the 250+ fps so I could get somewhere near the claimed 11 joules, but the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol shot more in the higher 100’s resulting in a three shot average of 176 fps. I did chronograph all 4 shots and they were somewhat close in velocity to each other: 159, 187, 176, 180 fps. Even then the average Joules was only around 4 which is a pretty far off the claimed 11 joules and even less than the 5 Joules I got using the standard all rubber 2.6 gram rubber balls. I did use a brand new CO2 and it was not exactly cold in my testing environment so I am too sure what caused the lower results from both ammo types?

While I was recording the velocity I was simultaneously recording the same 4 shots on the target and I did mange to get all 4 shots on my 8x11 paper target fairly well centered with a grouping with three of the 4 shots all within about 2.5 inches of each other adn very well center to the bullseye. One shot did hit a bit lower extending the group to around 5 inches. If this was an intruder I would have for sure been able to hit them easily at 30 feet away all within their main torso area. So in terms of accuracy with both ammo types, the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol was competent when using both the standard rubber balls and the rubber/steel balls I used in this review.

As mentioned in video 1 of this 2 part series, I do like the smaller size of the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol over the non-compact version but it does seem to be down significantly on power as compared to its larger brother adn this was the case using both ammo types. I am not sure if it would be a good deterrent based on the power output I got in my Field Tests. I am sure it would not want to be on the receiving end of this Less Lethal Pistol, perhaps it the intended vital was not wearing any thick clothing it would deter them but even a light jacket would probably stop most of the impact. Maybe at close range some head and face shots would get the job done, but in the heat of the moment I would not count on being able to make those type of consistent shots. My advice is if you want to use the the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol as intended, then go with the non compact version as it does hit the claimed power rating and then some.

Categories: .50 cal, CO2, Field Test, Paintball, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, Vimeo Video Tags: Umarex, T4E P2P HDP 50 Compact

Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol Rubber Ball Field Test Review

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This is part 1 of my 2 part Field Test for the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol. In this video (Part 1), I test out the included 1.6 gram solid rubber balls to find out what the velocity and accuracy is along with the overall joules rating. Umarex claims around 11 joules using the 1.6 gram rubber balls. While I test out the velocity with my Chronograph, I also aim at a paper target setup 30 feet downrange to see just how accuracy it is, and if I can get all 4 of the max rounds close to where I am aiming. In Part 2 I swap out the 1.6 gram rubber balls for 2.7 gram rubber'/steel balls that have a metal internal core.

Starting with velocity or power, I was hoping to get into the 300+ fps so I could get somewhere near the claimed 11 joules, but the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol shot more in the mid 200’s resulting in a three shot average of 255 fps. I did chronograph all 4 shots but the last shot was really low for some reason, so I tossed that one out to give the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol the benefit of the doubt. Even then the average joules was only 5 which is a far cry to the claimed 11 joules. I did use a brand new CO2 and it was not exactly cold in my testing environment so I am too sure what caused the lower result?

As I mentioned, while I was recording the velocity I was simultaneously recording the same shots on the target and I did mange to get all 4 shots on my 8x11 paper target fairly well centered with a grouping of about 6-7 inches apart. If this was an intruder I would have for sure been able to hit them easily at 30 feet away all within their main torso area. So in terms of accuracy the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol was very usable.

I do like the smaller size of the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Less Lethal Pistol over the non-compact version but it does seem to be down significantly on power as compared to its larger brother. I am not sure if it would be a good deterrent based on the power output I got in this Field Test. I am sure it would not be enjoyable being on the receiving end of this Less Lethal Pistol, but if the intended victim is wearing any type of heavy clothing I don’t think they would be that concerned by this Airgun. Maybe at close range some head and face shots would get the job done, but in the heat of the moment I would not count on being able to make those type of consistent shots. My advice is if you want to use the the Umarex P2P HDP 50 Compact CO2 Rubber Ball Less Lethal Pistol as intended, then go with the non compact version as it does hit the claimed power rating and then some.

Categories: .50 cal, CO2, Field Test, Paintball, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, Vimeo Video Tags: Umarex, T4E P2P HDP 50 Compact

Alias Gem Mini CO2 Pistol Field Test Shooting Video 50 Cal Rubber Ball

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In this part two video of our three part video series covering all the different ammo and barrel types that can be used with the Alias GEM Multi Ammo Mini CO2 Airgun, I test out the .50 caliber Paintball (Rubber Ball) barrel and ammo option to see what velocity and accrual I can get from the Alias Gem CO2 Airgun. If you have too already watch my Table Top Video and or my BB and Airsoft Field Test Shooting Video, then make sure to do so when you get a chance. Right off the bat I want to say that the Alias GEM Multi Ammo Mini CO2 Airgun is not at all an Airgun you are going to want to buy in terms of raw performance as you will see in this video and my other Field Test Videos for it in this series. It is however a very unique Airgun you can shoot up close with and have some fun shooting whatever ammo you decide to go with on that given day.

Starting with velocity, I should have put a brand new CO2 in the Airgun as I end up finding out only getting three good shots out of my remain CO2, because of the super short barrel and rather inefficient use of the CO2, you only get around 12-15 full use shots out of the Alias GEM Multi Ammo Mini CO2 Airgun and that is with the larger 12 gram CO2! For that reason I only based my average velocity through my Chronograph on the first three shots I took, which were all pretty close in velocity. Here are the results: 200, 207, 203 with an average of 203 fps using fairly light weight .50 Caliber Rubber Balls. Again the super short barrel does not do this Airgun any favors in the power department.

Moving onto the accuracy portion of this test, well you really don’t need to watch this part as I was not able to hit my 8x11 target setup 30 feet away. Part of the problem is that there are no sights on the .50 Caliber Paintball Barrel and the other factor is that the Alias GEM Multi Ammo Mini CO2 Airgun kind of throws rounds all over the place no matter what ammo or barrel type you choose, so trying to figure out exactly where to aim is kind of hard and so I may have simply not been aiming in the best location on the target to get best results. In hind sight I probably should have just shot this Airgun a lot closer than I do when making my standard Field Test Shooting Videos, but this is my standard shooting location and so I stuck with it.

After I make my videos, I sometimes see things I did not notice when I was making them, and in this case I can see that the .50 caliber Paintball Rubber Rounds I was using did not always go as deep in the barrel as you need to front load them and kind of tap them and let gravity help ease them in. I should have perhaps used a pencil or something like it to push the Rubber Balls all the way in for more consistent performance in terms of velocity and accuracy. Well now we all know! You are not going to be using this Paintball Airgun for any kind of Paintball war games and so in my opinion I would go with the included 6mm Airsoft BB’s for shooting in areas where a 4.5mm metal BB may not be good idea. The 6mm Plastic Airsoft BB’s seemed to have the highest velocity averaging 383 fps with .25 gram Airsoft BB’s and I was able to get some of them on the paper target at 30 feet away.

Categories: .50 cal, CO2, Break Barrel, Field Test, Paintball, Pistol, Review, Single Shot, Vimeo Video Tags: Alias Airgun, GEM