In this Table Top Comparison Vimeo Video I take a look at the full line of Sig Sauer distributed Replica CO2 Blowback Airguns and pick out my favorite 4.5mm Steel BB and .177 Caliber Pellet shooters out of the bunch. You will have to watch the video to see what my two picks are!
Looking at the 2016 US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle verses the more resent Canada version we have in our Canada Replica Airguns Store it is hard to really see any difference other than my US version is all black and Canada version is two tone desert tan with black highlights. To be honest I really like both color schemes but that will be a personal preference.
In this Field Test Shooting Comparison video my main goal was to see if there is any significant performance difference between the two versions. Did Sig Sauer perhaps detune the Canada version as is often the case with Canada versions of Airguns? Did Sig Sauer make any changes internally and improve the accuracy or shooting characteristics of their newer Canada model?
I am happy to say both version performed really similar, maybe the US version shot just a little bit hotter but they where within around 5 fps of each other so the same test on a different day could yield the opposite results. The same is true for my accuracy test shooting 10 rounds 30 feet downrange on a paper target. This time the Canada version shot just a tad bit tighter I would say just under an inch grouping but then again the US version was really close with really only 1 pellet extending the grouping out just over an inch. A different test I am sure and the results may be switched? After all I am only human and this was all shot using the open sights on both guns using a sand bag as a rest and sitting in a chair in the back to help with stability.
Type: Air Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer P365.
Materials: Metal and polymer build.
Weight: .8 pounds (363 Grams).
Barrel: 3.2 inches - smooth bore.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback singe action only.
Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB’s.
Ammunition Capacity: 12 round full size drop out magazine.
Max FPS: 295.
Trigger Pull: The trigger on the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a single action only trigger so you will need to rack the slide to cock the trigger and internal striker, after which the blowback operation will do this for you. When the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is unloaded the trigger pull length is short and the trigger weight is fairly light. That said when you load the full size drop out magazine with steel 4.5mm BB’s, the trigger pull weight increases significantly. This is because the inner barrel comes back and into the magazine when the trigger is pulled allowing for a better seal between the barrel and magazine which increases power and CO2 efficiency. The drawback to this is more friction on the trigger when you pull it with a loaded magazine.
Accuracy: Since I have not done my Field Test Shooting Review for the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, I can not comment fully on how the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol will perform in terms of accuracy and power. I did have the chance to shoot off a couple magazines worth of ammo in the yard shooting at some pop cans around 30 feet away and the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol seemed to hit them most often then not. I was a bit surprised by the snappy blowback and loud pop the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol made and will not be surprised if it is able to hit the claimed 295 fps velocity using a brand new CO2.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol has a metal and plastic (polymer) build, the slide is metal along with part of the full size magazine and I am sure several inner parts will also be metal. The frame along with section of the magazine are plastic. It’s kind of hard to tell if the trigger, safeties, slide catch and take down leavers are metal but I believe they are with the magazine release being plastic. The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is not the heaviest Airgun coming in at about .8 pounds but for its size it feels good. Fit and finishes are also good.
Realism: The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P365 which is a 9mm striker fired everyday cary compact pistol. It looks and feels the part with most external mechanical working parts mimicking the real steel version well enough. I was not able to easily field strip the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol since the takedown leaver seems to be only for show. One main difference between the CO2 Airgun and Real Steel version of the Sig Sauer P365 is the use of polymer in the frame for the Airgun version while the real steel Sig Sauer P365 has a metal frame. I imagine this is because 9mm rounds pack some punch and a small polymer frame may not have been up to the job. not something to be concerned with in a CO2 version of the same pistol.
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Pros:
One of the smallest CO2 BB Airgun on the market and somehow Sig managed to get a full size drop out magazine in it?
Good overall replica of the real steel P365 Sig Sauer pistol in terms of looks and operation.
Full Sig Sauer markings and licensing.
Working ambidextrous safeties and slide catch release (locks back after last shot).
Snappy blowback feel.
White and green dot sights front and back.
Rail for accessories (Maybe).
Recessed barrel opening and open ejection port for added realism.
Warning instructions are super discreet!
Cons:
SAO trigger gets a bit harder to pull when loaded up with BB’s.
Has a polymer frame as compared to the metal frame on the real steel version.
Not easily field strippable..
Comments:
The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol was a real show stopper at this years SHOT Show, I was amazed that Sig Sauer was able to actually figure out a way to fit a full size drop out magazine that holds both the CO2 and 12 steel BB’s in such a compact Airgun. The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is even small than the Walther PPK in many ways so great work by Sig in figuring out how to engineer their new Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. I also think the the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a great replica of the real steel version in looks, feel and function which is what we are all looking for when considering buying a new CO2 replica Air Pistol. My initial test shots went well and make me feel optimistic about how the Field Test Shooting Video will go when I make it shortly.
My Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol:
The question comes up often about which Airgun to buy. Customers are wondering when they are looking at a specific Airgun and they see several similar products but from different companies, are they the same gun and if so which one should they decide to buy?
One of the biggest Airgun suppliers out there is for sure KWC, their BB and Airsoft guns are redistributed through companies like Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher and more. Often times the companies that redistribute KWC Airguns hold licensing agreements with real gun manufacturers like Smith & Wesson, Glock, Colt, Beretta, Sig Sauer, Taurus to name a few… KWC makes the Airguns in their Taiwanese factory but they are not allowed to put a real gun manufacturer license on the Airguns they distribute directly so KWC distributed Airguns will generally be all black.
I have also seen companies like Umarex distribute a new KWC Airgun that I have not seen yet from KWC, I believe KWC works with these big name Airgun companies directly and will build a new gun or variation of an existing KWC Airgun for them and give that Company an exclusive for a period of time. KWC will eventually regain the rights to sell that Airgun model directly after 6 months to a year.
Now that you know a little bit more on how it all works let’s get back to whether you should buy a KWC branded Airgun or other Brands same Airgun. It really comes down to I would say three factors. Do you want a Licensed version of the Airgun you are buying? Is there a price difference? Which gun is available to buy when I am ready to buy?
When you buy the Licensed version of the KWC Airgun redistributed through a third part Airgun Company you will often get a lot more writing on the Airgun than just the Gun Manufacturers name. Warning information comes to mind and does not look all that attractive on the slide where it is usually found in bright white lettering. If you like a cleaner look and don’t mind the lack of licensing then the KWC distributed version will generally be all back, nice and clean looking.
You would think buying the KWC Version that is sold more directly to the end customer would be the less expensive of the options because less hands are involved in the selling process. This is not always true, it is more about supply and demand, if more people want the cleaner looking KWC version but it’s harder to get ahold of than the price of the KWC version may actually be higher than say the Umarex or Crosman version. So shop around if price is the deciding factor as the guns are going to be mechanically the same with just some slight cosmetic differences between them.
Lastly, availability maybe what eventually leads you to buy a KWC version over an Umarex, or Crosman or Sig version since if the gun is not in stock well you may have limited options and so the one in stock is going to be perhaps your only option! Don’t feel like you got short changed, again these guns are virtually all the same at the end of the day no matter if you buy it from KWC, Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher or whomever.
In this Evolution of the Sig Sauer ASP Pellet Pistols YouTube Video I show you Sig Sauer’s full lineup of ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols and talk about how Sig Sauer has consistently improved their ASP Airgun designs to make their ASP Pellet Pistol the new standard for other airgun companies to follow.
Sig Sauer introduced and started shipping their Sig Sauer APS P250 and P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols in 2015. Both of these Pellet firing Air Pistols used a similar styled double sided rotary magazine as the Umarex PX4 which is common in many blowback pellet Airguns today. The Sig Sauer ASP P226 did include a new lever styled CO2 piercing system that did not require manual tab based tightening of the CO2. Both the Sig Sauer APS P250 and P226 included full Sig Licensing and one to one scale accuracy in a very high quality build.
In 2017 Sig Sauer introduced the Sig Sauer ASP P320 which included their first Belt Fed Rotary Magazine similar to the Belt Fed Rotary Magazines in their ASP Rifle line. The Sig Sauer ASP P320 stick styled belt magazine held a whopping 30 rounds!
In the spring of 2018 Sig started shipping their Sig Sauer ASP X-Five which featured a Belt Fed Rotary Magazine along with Sig’s Lever CO2 Loading System. The Sig Sauer ASP X-Five is also one of the rare action shooting CO2 blowback Airguns with a fully adjustable rear sight.
In the Fall of 2018 Sig brought out their latest ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Air Pistol, the Sig Sauer ASP M17. The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol nailed everything us Airgun enthusiast are looking for in an Airgun which can be hard to achieve when pellets are involved! The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol not only featured a Belt Fed Rotary Magazine and Lever Style CO2 System but put all of this into a full size drop out magazine. The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol brought even more features we where looking for like a Cut Out Ejection Port, Recessed Barrel Opening and the ability to be Filed Striped for easy access to a removable barrel just incase a pellet managed to get jammed.
So as you can see Sig Sauer is pushing the boundaries of Airgun Designs and always trying to make even better and better products to bring to us each year. I look forward to seeing What Sig Sauer is going to show me this year at SHOT Show 2019!
Type: Air Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer ASP M17.
Materials: Metal and plastic build.
Weight: 2.21 pounds (1002 Grams).
Barrel: 4.6 inches - Rifled steel.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback double action only.
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets.
Ammunition Capacity: 20 round belt fed magazine.
Max FPS: 430.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is actually very good considering the trigger not only cocks the hammer with each shot but it also has to index the 20 round belt fed magazine. All of this is done only using around 6 pounds of trigger pull. You will find the trigger pull to be a bit long because of this but overall it feels pretty good and will allow for fairly fast rapid fire action shooting.
Accuracy: So far I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol but plan on making it shortly. I did hover get a chance to load some CO2 and Sig Sauer Led Pellets into my Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and so far fired two fully loaded magazines which is 40 rounds. So far so good, no misfires or jams and power can accuracy seemed nice and consistent. The blowback action is scrips and snappy!
Build Quality: As with all the Sig Sauer ASP Airguns, the qualify is very good. Sig does not actually make these guns but has full control over the design and manufacturing of them. The actual airguns are made in Japan for Sig Sauer but this OK since Sig is not really an Airgun manufacturer and so levying that part to a company that is is not a bad idea. The fit and finish on the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is top notch. There is lots of metal in the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol similar to where you would find it in the real steel version.
Realism: The Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer M17. Even the slight difference in color between the slide and frame has been recreated on the Airgun version as compared to the real steel Military version. Sig has made this new ASP Airgun even more realistic by giving it an open ejection port, a recessed barrel, a full size drop out magazine that holds the CO2 and belt magazine, and Sig even made the M17 ASP field strippable!
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Pros:
Very good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer M17.
Designed by Sig and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Has nice heavy blowback operation.
Has accurate weight to it at just over 2 pounds, will be similar to a loaded real steel M17.
White dot sights and accessory rail.
High capacity 20 round belt feed magazine that fits into the full size drop out magazine.
Easy loading CO2 with Sigs lever system, CO2 also combined with the full size drop out magazine.
Decent feel to the trigger not heavy or as sticky even though the trigger action rotates the 20 round belt fed magazine.
First Sig Sauer ASP pistol that is Field Strippable.
Open ejection port and reassessed barrel that help with believability.
Cons:
Slide does not lock back after last shot.
Sights are non adjustable.
Only magazine option is the longer high capacity magazine that does extend the pistol grip.
Comments:
I really like what Sig Sauer is doing for airgun community. What I mean by this is that rather than simply slapping their License on an already existing airgun like many other companies tend to do, Sig instead has decided to create something new and fresh. Sig Sauer has in brought new advancements and deigns to their APS Airgun line that nobody els so far has been able to do and with each new ASP Airgun Sig Sauer has improved upon their designs always staving to be better than the previous version. That’s exactly what the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is to me, Sigs best ASP Air Pistol to date!
My Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol:
The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is Sigs latest ASP (Advanced Sport Pellet) air pistol and like the Sig Sauer APS P320 has a high capacity bet fed magazine along with an easy load CO2 system. So who did the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol perform compared to my preview testing of the Sig Sauer P320 ASP?
For my velocity testing I placed 5 rounds through my Chrony Chronograph using a brand new Sig Sauer CO2 along with Sigs Match Ballistic Alloy 5.25 grain pellets. This was the same setup when I performed the Sig Sauer ASP P320 testing. The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol shot an average of 359 fps which was lower than my testing of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 as it shot an average of 413 fps. I am not sure why there was such a difference since both guns use similar internal mechanics but I have a feeling the CO2 may not have been pierced fully since some of the shots seemed to be weaker than others and CO2 output did not seem consistent even causing the blowback action to not fully cycle on a couple of shots.
Moving onto accuracy, my Sig Sauer ASP P320 shooting an 8 round group got around a 2 inch spread. I was able to get a tighter 1.5 inch grouping with my Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and this was with 10 shots rather than 8 so the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol may have shot a bit slower but it did seem to be a little bit tighter in terms of accuracy. The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol was shooting a bit low and to the left for me in my accuracy testing but the rear sight is fully adjustable for windage and elevation so this can be easily corrected.
I strongly feel something did not go right when the CO2 was pierced using Sigs proprietary Cantilever Easy CO2 Loading system. There is only one way to do it so I know it was not human error in this case. perhaps the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol needs a little bit of break in time is all?
Overall the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a really well made and fun gun gun to shoot. I love the high capacity belt fed magazine with is not heavy on the trigger at all like some other guns. The fully adjustable rear sight is something you don't often see on CO2 blowback action shooters so hopefully this is a new trend?
You may remember back at SHOT Show this year I showed everyone some new products from Sig Sauer, well two of those pistols showed up for me to review so why not start off with an Unboxing before I get into the full Table Top and Shooting reviews.
The two pistols I received from Sig are the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 B blowback Pellet Pistol and the We the People 1911 Co2 Blowback BB Pistol. Sig was also kind enough to send me out some of their 12 gram CO2 and Match Ballistic Alloy Pellets to use with these Airguns.
Here are some of the basic specifications for both of theses fine Airguns...
Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 B blowback Pellet Pistol:
Distributer: SIG Sauer
Caliber: .177 cal. Pellets
Velocity: 430 fps
Action: Semi automatic Blowback SAO
Barrel Style: Rifled
Gun Weight: 2.7 Pounds
Overall Length: 8.7 Inches
Barrel Length: 5 Inches
Magazine Capacity: 20 Rounds
Mechanism: CO2 12 Gram
Trigger Pull: 5.5 Pounds
We the People 1911 Co2 Blowback BB Pistol:
Distributer: SIG Sauer
Caliber: .4.5mm Steel BB
Velocity: 340 fps
Action: Semi automatic Blowback SAO
Barrel Style: Smooth bore
Gun Weight: 2.2 Inches
Overall Length: 8.5 inches
Barrel Length: 4.5 Inches
Magazine Capacity: 17 Rounds
Mechanism: CO2 12 Gram
Watch my full Unboxing Video for the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP and We the People 1911 Airguns:
The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a really nice evolution to the already existing line of Sig Sauer ASP Pellet Pistols. The 30 round belt fed pellet magazine is what really sets it apart from the Sig ASP P250 and Sig ASP P226 which both share the traditional double sided 8 round rotary pellet magazines found in other CO2 pellet pistols like the Umarex PX4 and ASG CZ P-09 Duty.
The big question I had was how is the trigger going to feel and is a 30 round belt magazine going to be reliable? Will other aspects of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol function and perform like its rotary magazine brothers?
So I figured I would put the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol up against both the Sig ASP P250 and P226 and see how they all faired against each other.
During my Chronograph feet per second shooting test I compared all three blowback pellet pistols shooting five rounds from each of them using a brand new CO2 and Sig Sauer 5.25 grain Match Ballistic Alloy Pellets. It was a close race with the Sig ASP P250 averaging 413 fps, the Sig ASP P226 just under with a 409 fps average and the Sig ASP P320 coming in a very close third at 405 fps. Only about 8 fps separating all of them!
Moving on to the target portion of my testing. As per my standard Field Test Shooting Reviews I setup my paper targets about 30 feet from my rested shooting position and since the ASP P250 and P226 both have 8 rounds per side rotary magazines I decided to shoot an 8 round grouping with all three Sig ASP pellet pistols. It was really close and perhaps one could say most of the variability was because of the human factor. All three CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols shot about 2 inch groupings with perhaps one or two outliers, again most likely my fault :) I would say the Sig Sauer ASP P250 was perhaps the most accurate with the tightest of the three groups and also the most centered. The Sig Sauer ASP P226 and Sig Sauer ASP P320 where both a close second with both of them shooting just a tad left on target but pretty close to the center.
What about that Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol trigger and belt fed magazine? The trigger actually felt great, much lighter than I was expecting and I did not have one pellet feed error during my entire testing. At the end of the day all three Sig ASP pellet guns performed about the same, but I have to say having 30 rounds at your disposal without having to reload or rotate the stick mag really makes the Sig ASP P320 stand out and perhaps make it the winner in a very close contest.
Type: Air Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer ASP P320.
Materials: Metal and plastic build.
Weight: 1.81 pounds (821 Grams).
Barrel: 4.75 inches - Rifled steel.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback single and double action.
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets and 4.5mm Steel BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 30 round belt fed stick magazine.
Max FPS: 430.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a lot better than I thought it was going to be considering each time you pull the trigger it has to advance the 30 round belt fed magazine and cock the internal hammer since it is double action only. The blowback operation is really only for show and feel since it does not cock the hammer for a more single action type trigger pull. You can expect a fairly long trigger pull because it is double action only but overall it is not too heavy.
Accuracy: I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol but hope to have it done shortly. Since I also haven't really done an official shooting test for the Sig Sauer P350 and P226, I figure I will test out all three of them at the same time.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a bit heavier (closer to 2 pounds) than the P250 which hits the scale at only 1.5 pounds , this does make the Sig Sauer P320 feel a bit more solid in the hand. The Sig Sauer P320 has a metal slide and polymer frames similar to the real steel version which gives it authentic weight, balance and handling. Sig claims that their entire APS line of pellet guns is life tested for 15,000 shots so you know this gun is going to last and provide years of shooting fun. The fit and finish seem really good, so far no real paint or finish problems and all mechanically everything is operating as it should.
Realism: The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P320. The hammer, slide catch release and take down leaver are purely for show with the hammer being moulded into the slide and frame. One slight disappointment for me is when a gun does not have a cut out ejection port, that is also the case with the otters ASP Sig Sauer airguns like the P226 and P250 but it does not take away from the shooting fun in any way.
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Pros:
Good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P320.
Designed by Sig Sauer and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Should have nice heavy blowback operation like the ASP P250 and P226.
Has better weight than the P250, almost half a pound heavier.
White dot sights for easy target acquisition and accessory rail for add ons.
Super high capacity 30 round belt feed magazine.
Decent feel to the trigger not heavy or as sticky as I thought it might be having a 30 round belt fed magazine.
Cons:
Hammer is moulded into the slide and frame, does not function at all.
Sight are non adjustable.
Ejection port is not cut out and there is no working slide catch.
Comments:
I was happy when Sig Sauer released their ASP Sig P250 and P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols with their 16 round double sided stick magazines like we have seen in several otters CO2 Pellet Pistols. But I love the introduction of the 30 round belt fed magazine. I am hoping the belt fed magazine performs while actually shooting pellets as good as it feels when dry firing it, I guess we will have to wait and see when I do my Field Test Shooting Video :) Overall the new Sig Sauer ASP P320 Pellet Pistol looks to be an upgrade of sure to the P250 in terms of improved weight and a higher capacity magazine.
My Vimeo Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol:
