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Here is my official Field Test Shooting Video Review for my Daisy Winchester Model 11 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. Make sure to checkout my previous Table Top Review for more details on the Winchester Model 11 1911 CO2 4.5mm BB version where I also did a pre-test showing similar results.
My 5 shot Chronograph test resulted in a bit lower than previously tested 339 average fps while my accuracy test shot from 20 feet out in a semi rested position got six shots right in the 1.5 inch bullseye with 4 shots coming out a bit, 2 of which spread the group out to about a 3 inch grouping in total. So in terms of shot placement you could say the Daisy Winchester 1911 4.5mm BB Pistol shot very well centered. Agin this time around I got 6 full magazines but had to manually clock teh hammer back on some of the last magazines end shots, power did seem OK even when manually cocking the hammer.
Overall, the Daisy Model 11 4.5mm BB Pistol is nice pretty much all metal low-cost CO2 Blowback BB pistol with good overall performance. This one looks the part of a 1911 even though it may not function 100%. If your OK with close and want to save a few bucks, then teh Daisy Winchester Model 11 may be for you, if you don't mind spending a bit more to get a BB gun as close to a real 1911 A1 as possible than take a look at the KWC/Cybergun Tanfoglio Model 1911 full blowback BB Pistol and Airsoft Pistol versions.
Watch my full Video Field Test Shooting YouTube Video below:
Type: Air Pistol.
Model: Winchester Model 11 (1911)
Materials: Metal slide & frame.
Weight: 1.87 pounds (843 grams).
Barrel: Metal non-rifled smooth bore.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Single action only.
Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's.
Ammunition Capacity: 16 rounds.
FPS: 410 fps.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Daisy Winchester Model 11 is very nice, just about the perfect pull weight, not too heavy or too light, it has next to no take-up at all and a nice predictable release point. As is traditional with a 1911 styled pistol, the trigger is single action only so you will need to either pull the hammer back or rack the slide for the first shot, with subsequent shots you will not have to do this as the blowback action cocks the hammer for single action shooting. If your CO2 is very low, the blowback may not be adequate enough to cock the hammer so you can do this manually to get a few extra shots out of the Daisy Model 11.
Accuracy: When I shot the Winchester Model 11 from 20 feet out in a semi rested position, I was able to get some decent results. I placed 10 rounds within about a 2 group and the shot placement was very well centered, just a slight bit to the left. I did get a couple of stragglers that spread the group out just a bit larger but not too much. I did also get right around 350-360 fps on my chronograph on this not so warm day. We will have to see what my dedicated field test results yield for this BB pistol.
Build Quality: The Daisy Model 11 (1911) is made in Japan and has a nice overall finish to it. Other than the plastic magazine and grips it is an all metal gun so the materials used are good. The slide does have a bit of wiggle play in it but so do many blowback air pistols, perhaps to reduce some friction as the slide springs on these guns are not overly heavy. The paint used seems to be holding up very well and looks good, I did notice a molding seem that runs down the underside of the slide and along the trigger guard.
Realism: The Daisy Winchester Model 11 is a replica of the real steel 1911 A1 style 45 auto. It does have the Winchester licensing on it but I am not sure if there is an exact Winchester 1911 this gun is made to replicate. For the most part it looks and functions very similar to a real 1911 with a few exceptions like the lack of a working grip safety, a rather strange two stage safety and also the stick styled smaller magazine. This blowback air pistol can not be field striped conventionally either. I do like the true single action trigger and open ejection port.
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- Lots of metal in this airgun and good weight to it.
- Good overall looking replica of a real 1911.
- Reasonably decent blowback feel.
Mid range fps and shots per CO2.
- Very nice true single action trigger.
- Shots where well centered and got decent accuracy.
- Markings and instructions on gun are color matched.
- Solid CO2 tightening system, seems to work well once you get the hang of it.
- Not bad at all for the lower price point.
- Like the open ejection port.
- Made in Japan.
- Kind of funny safety setup, it is redundant?
- Has a plastic magazine, would have been nice in metal.
- Back strap safety does not actually work but it does move.
- Says "clip" instead of "magazine" on gun.
I know some people have been hating on this gun for a couple of reason so let's get them out of the way... Yes it has a weird safety setup and I can not tell you why Daisy did this, perhaps they wanted it to be "more safe"? As a 1911 trainer you will have to adapt how you take this gun off of safety over a traditional 1911 setup. The magazine is plastic, not a biggie, if it breaks on you get another one. It's not full blowback like the Cybergun/KWC Tanfoglio 1911, this is true but you do get higher fps and more shots per CO2 out of it because of this. And yes Daisy uses the word "Clip"on the gun instead of the correct term "Magazine". Honestly, the Daisy WInchester Model 11 is a nice overall BB gun and the price point is pretty low for what you get. It looks really good overall and shoots nicely with enough blowback to give you some recoil feel and allow for true single action shooting. You also get decent fps and a good amount of shots from a single CO2 cartridge so stop complaining and just enjoy this gun for what it is!
My YouTube Table Top Review of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 Blowback CO2 BB Pistol:
I've had lots of requests to review the Daisy Winchester Model 11 and to give my opinion how it stacks up with the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911. I will be doing a full review of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 Colt 45 1911 replica shortly but wanted to kick things off with my comparison portion.
Your best off to simply watch my YouTube Video Comparison of the Tanfoglio Witness 1911 and Winchester Model 11 but here are my thoughts on some of similarities, strengths and weaknesses for both 1911 syled airguns.
- Both are good replicas of the classic Colt 45 1911 semi auto pistol.
- Both shoot 4.5mm Steel BB's and use standard 12 gram CO2.
- Both are mostly metal and weigh close to 2 pounds with the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness weighing about 40 grams more.
- Both come in a nice cardboard box.
- Both have blowback operation with slides that lock back after the last shot.
- Both have true 1911 styled single action only triggers.
- The Winchester Model 11 has the higher feet per second rating and gets more shots per CO2 (410fps vs 320fps).
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a full size drop out metal magazine that holds the BB's and CO2.
- The Winchester Model 11 is more economical to buy and shoot.
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a more realistic "full" blowback operation.
- The Winchester Model 11 has less intrusive warning markings on the slide.
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 has a working Grip Safety.
- The Winchester Model 11 is made in Japan.
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 can be field stripped similar to a real 1911.
- Both have fairly high capacity magazines (16 BB's for the Winchester and 18 BB's for the Tanfoglio).
- The Winchester Model 11 has a funky extra button on the thumb safety?
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 tends to use a lot of CO2 with less average fps.
- The Winchester Model 11 has more free-play (wiggle) in the slide.
- The Tanfoglio Witness 1911 magazine are more expensive and can be hard to find at times.
All in all I really like both guns, and what really counts is how they feel and shoot and after a quick outside testing with the Daisy Winchester Model 11, it seemed to shoot and work pretty good for me. Realists may prefer the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911 because it is more realistic in terms of how it's built and how it functions but as a daily shooting gun, the Daisy Winchester Model 11 hits harder and gets more shots per CO2, all while still giving the shooter a very realistic 1911 styled shooting experience.
Watch my YouTube video Comparison of the Daisy Winchester Model 11 vs the Cybergun Tanfoglio Witness 1911: