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Umarex SA177 vs HPP Head to Head Shootout

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Some "not so new" CO2 Blowback 4.5mm Steel BB Pistols from Umarex, but still popular Replica BB guns that have received a lot of attention and to be honest have to date not had a real "proper" Field Test. So why not put the Umarex SA177 and Umarex HPP side by side for yet another installment of Head to Head Shootouts!

Right off the bat I have to say that one of these very fine Blowback Air Pistols has been retired by Umarex. Word on the street is that some suits from a company that sell real steel semi auto pistols that kind of share a similarity to the Umarex SA177 may have applied some pressure to Umarex and somehow the mold got broken and guess what... No more Umarex SA177's :(

On a positive note, you can still get the Umarex HPP which in my opinion was always a better shooter with a much heavier and snappier blowback along with a very smooth trigger. And yes we have it the HPP for sale in our Canada and US Replica Airguns Stores.

Getting back to this Field Test Head to Head Shootout for the Umarex SA177 and HPP CO2 Blowback 4.5mm Steel BB Pistols. I tested them both out on the Chronograph shooting 5 rounds in each gun using a brand new 12 gram CO2 in combination with 5.1 grain Umarex Zinc Coated Steel BB's. The SA177 average a bit higher at 395 fps while the HPP came in just a hair lower at a respectable 372 fps average.

In terms of accuracy from 30 feet out using a semi rested position (sand bag in the front, standing in the back), Both guns wanted to shoot just a bit to the left and they both had a definite internal tighter group that was about 1.5 inches with some strays that came outside opening the groups up to around 3 inches or so. Both BB Air Pistols worked flawlessly with no problems, again the Umarex HPP for me was more enjoyable to shoot with it's heavy blowback and lighter trigger over the SA177. You can also expect to get around 100 or even more shots out of a single CO2 cartridge.

Make sure to checkout my initial Table Top comparison video for these two Umarex Blowback BB Pistols, it goes back a few years for sure :)

Categories: 4.5mm / .177 cal, BB, Blowback, CO2, Comparison, Field Test, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, YouTube Video Tags: H.P.P., SA177, Umarex

Umarex HPP CO2 BB Chronograph Shooting & Slow-mo

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I reviewed this nice little compact Blowback CO2 BB pistol a while back , but I didn't have my Chrony Chronograph or my Casio High Speed Camera, so with all this new technology I thought it was time to revisit my Umarex HPP and see what it could do.

I shot 8 rounds through the Chrony and got an average of 385 FPS which is not too far off the manufacturers claimed 410 FPS. Keep in mind the weather could be a lot warmer!

I also put 8 more rounds into a target from 20 feet away in a free standing position and got a bit of a scattered grouping but I think it was partially my fault because I was a bit surprised at how smooth and light the trigger was. I didn't remember it being so nice and I just wanted to keep pulling it with not too much aiming going on :)

Lastly I shot 10 rounds while capturing the blowback action with my high speed video camera at 210 frames per second, so you can really see the heavy blowback of this snappy airgun.

Enjoy my YouTube Video of the Umarex HPP CO2 BB gun getting Chronographed, shooting at a target and slowed down a bit with my High Speed Camera.

Categories: 4.5mm / .177 cal, BB, Blowback, CO2, Field Test, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, YouTube Video Tags: H.P.P., Umarex

Added the Umarex HPP Blowback BB gun to the Store

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I just added the excellently priced and well made Umarex HPP Blowback BB Pistol to the Replica Airguns Store.

The Umarex High Power Pistol (HPP) BB Repeater pistol has a 15-shot drop-out magazine for quick reloading. The 410 fps velocity is quite high for the class of pistol. The crisp blowback action simulates a real firearm. The heavyweight construction of the pistol and integrated accessory rail give it the look and feel of realism. A housed CO2 cartridge in the pistol grip provides the power for the this Sig Sauer looking heavy duty gun.

  • 4.5mm BB
  • CO2 Powered
  • 15 round magazine
  • 410 fps
  • 1.8 pounds
  • 3.6 inch steel non-rifled barrel
  • Double action
  • Blowback
  • Metal slide - metal frame
  • Tactical Rail Mount
Categories: 4.5mm / .177 cal, BB, Blowback, CO2, Pistol, Replica Airguns News, Semi Auto Tags: H.P.P., Umarex

Umarex HPP CO2 BB AIRGUN - Field Test

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(Photo curtesy of www.co2airguns.net)

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Type: BB air pistol.

Manufacturer: Umarex.

Model: HPP.

Materials: Mostly all metal construction.

Weight: 1.8 pounds.

Barrel: 3.6 inches, steel, non-rifled.

Propulsion: CO2 x1.

Action: Semi auto blowback, double action.

Ammunition Type: Steel BBs 4.5mm.

Ammunition Capacity: 15 rounds

FPS: 410

Trigger Pull: This gun has a medium trigger pull, the first 3/4 of the trigger pull actuates the hammer with a noticeable click when the hammer is all the way back and ready to fire. The last part of the trigger pull is much lighter. With practice you will be able to engage the hammer and then fire the gun in a kind of simulated single action mode.

Accuracy: Medium to good.

Build Quality: In its price range this air gun offers good build quality and value, it feels solid and well built and has a very hefty feel for a compact size gun. I would have liked to have seen the magazine made from metal rather than plastic.

Realism: This gun is loosely styled after a Sig Sauer 226-228. It is lacking a cut-out ejection port that would have added greatly to its realism. The grips are also molded into the handle giveing the gun durability but not authenticity. I would have also liked to see a heftier magazine as it's made out of plastic and feels a bit cheap compared to the rest of the gun. I do like the fact that the barrel tip has a large diameter opening making the gun look more like the larger caliber weapon it is styled after. 

Purchased this gun from: The Replica Airguns Store

Pros:

  • Well priced for what you get.

  • Mostly all metal construction (Except for the magazine).

  • The gun feels really good in the hand and shoots well with a very responsive kick.

  • Good powerful and accuracy for a blowback BB gun.

  • Much better trigger pull/feel than the SA177.

  • Has good power to CO2 usage ratio, can get around 100 shots per CO2 cartridge.

  • Picatinny rail for accessories like Laser sights and tactical lights.

Cons:

  • Again with the plastic magazine but it is a con after all!

  • Ejection Port should have been cut out to make the gun look more realistic.

  • I would have like to have seen actual rubber grips rather than the moulded in metal ones.

Comments:

I found this Umarex Blowback BB gun to be a really accurate, responsive and enjoyable gun to shoot. It is very compact yet has nice heft and the blowback action is snappy giving you the feeling of a real automatic weapon. The fact that this gun is so inexpensive and yet delivers great power and CO2 efficiency makes it not only affordable to buy but also shoot on a daily basis.

 
Categories: 4.5mm / .177 cal, BB, Blowback, CO2, Field Test, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, YouTube Video Tags: H.P.P., Umarex

Umarex H.P.P and SA177 Comparison/Review

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I received both of these Umarex blowback BB guns (Umarex H.P.P and the Umarex SA177) about a month ago and so far I have very little to complain about either of them!

Some of the specs:

  • Both of them are CO2 powered

  • Both of them shoot 4.5mm BB's

  • Both of them have blowback action

  • Both of them shoot around 400 FPS

  • The H.P.P  is styled after the Sig Sauer 266

  • The H.P.P is mostly all metal construction

  • The H.P.P has a 15 round magazine

  • The SA177 is styled after the Glock

  • The SA177 has a metal slide and composite frame

  • The SA177 has a 19 round magazine

  • The SA177 has fiber optic sights

Here is a quick summary of these airguns…

Both of these Umarex airguns are great value for the money and both shoot pretty hard and accurate for blowback styled BB guns. Both have long trigger pulls with the SA177 being a bit on the heavy side. Neither one has a very heavy blowback feel but there is enough blowback to make them responsive and fun to shoot.

The construction on both of these BB airguns is overall very good with the SA177 being more realistic in comparison to the H.P.P. The H.P.P tends to be a more comfortable gun to shoot because of its weighty feel in the hand and lighter trigger pull.

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I highly recommend both of these air guns. If you're looking for realism then get the SA177, and if you want the better shooter of the two, get the H.P.P.

I will be doing a more thorough shooting review with videos for each one of these Umarex blowback CO2 BB guns in the near future so stay tuned!

Here is the Vimeo Video of my Umarex H.P.P and SA177 Comparison/Review:

Categories: 4.5mm / .177 cal, BB, Blowback, CO2, Comparison, Pistol, Review, Semi Auto, YouTube Video Tags: H.P.P., SA177, Umarex